1. Crimea IS Russia. It was a part of Ukraine only 13 years thanks to idiot Chruchev. Even end of 90s, 10 years 'in Ukraine' Crimea was still 99% Russian. I know it cause I was there then on a vacation, speaking with simple people in middle part of Crimea and in Kerch. No Ukraine word heard during a monthtime, except TV.
2. Russia don't fight with Ukraine on Donbass. If you want to see what happens when Russia starts a small war - look to the Syria. 
3. I'm Russian, yes. But hardly a troll. But yes, i support Russian government and Putin, and I think thats normal for a citizen of a country to be proud of it. 

The only ones who violated its integrity and common sense is Ukraine itself. Sadly, cause a know a lot of nice people living there, and now they are trapped in their 'leaders' politics.

Putin - "the Crimea is Ukraine", Putin is a liar

Referring back to the DSB main report PDF, on page 132 they have a picture of the shrapnel configuration of the 9N314M warhead.  (The figure on the right of the picture is a computer image of what it looks like inside the actual warhead pictured on the left.  Real examples of the shrapnel pieces are in the middle of the picture.)

You will notice that there are three distinct different shapes of shrapnel in the warhead:  the butterfly pieces (or bow-tie as the DSB report calls them), small square pieces that fill in the gaps between the butterfly pieces, and square pieces which are bigger than the little filler pieces but smaller than the butterfly pieces.  So not all the damage of a 9N314M will be caused by butterfly shaped pieces, since the 9N314M has several different shapes of shrapnel inside it.  The reason everyone is mainly talking about the butterfly shaped pieces is that it is a distinctive shape that helps to identify this particular warhead from the damage inflicted.  In other words, yes, this warhead uses "mixed type" or multiple shapes of shrapnel. 

In addition to the multiple pieces of shrapnel in the 9N314M, not all of which are butterfly shaped, there is another thing to consider.  Imagine the shrapnel pieces exploding from the missile.  The pieces fly everywhere but some of them hit the plane.  Of course they are not particularly aerodynamic, and the explosion was a very rough type of propulsion, so most of the pieces are probably tumbling through the air and hitting the plane in different ways.  Some of them will hit the plane "face first" and be in the perfect position to make a butterfly shaped hole.  But others will hit "sideways", so they couldn't possibly leave a butterfly shaped hole.  Think of throwing a coin at a piece of paper.  It might hit with the whole face of the coin, tearing a big hole, or it might hit on the edge, tearing a thin slice.  But that's not all!  Next, think of what the shrapnel pieces are hitting.  What kind of material is it?  Some of the pieces will be able to punch through cleanly, leaving a perfect impression of how they entered the plane, "face" or "edge" first.  But some of them will hit different material, making a messy hole or some other different kind of damage. 

OK, Sharu.  First:  Does all of the above convince you that the 9N314M warhead would inflict damage with some butterfly shapes, but mostly other shapes?  If not, why not?  What parts of what I said above do you find unconvincing? 

Second:  You said that you are convinced that at least some of the holes WERE butterfly shaped, right?  Isn't the 9N314M the only warhead in that region which uses that shape?  So it would have to be that warhead, which according to Antey only goes in the 9M38M1 missile? 

1st. Yes. Even if only butterfly shaped shrapnel is in warhead - it will damaged during explosion/collisions. Also to have a butterfly shaped hole in target shrapnel should impact it with very tight angle range, which is impossible irl.

So even in case of 9m38m1 missile most holes must be of different kind of 'normal' holes, with a diversity because of impact angle/speeds/hundreds of factors.

2nd. No. I didn't saw any hole which can be clearly identified as butterfly shaped. Also have to tell you, that even square pieces could make butterfly holes in case if target structure is not simple.

So all I got from our talks is that the missile and warhead cannot be clearly identified by holes. So no info.

In fact even if missile identified it would mean nothing. I can say that 9m38m1 missiles are in Ukraine army too. Or you can say that even if older missiles used - Russia not using it itself but could take it from storage and give to Donetsk militia.

So empty talk in the end... (((

1.  Not impossible, but unlikely.  Or maybe you mean "impossible for them all to hit exactly right, but a few will", which I agree with. 

2.  In the photos at http://www.whathappenedtoflightmh17.com/parts-of-mh17-cockpit-found-in-december-2015/ , at least some of them definitely seem to have little pieces coming in from the sides that don't make sense if a square object punched the hole but make perfect sense if a butterfly shaped piece made the hole.  I also don't see how a butterfly shape could be made by square holes in simple sheet metal as is the case in the examples I mention.  (I don't mean the sort of "8" shapes that could possibly have been two squares overlapping, I mean the other ones that are just like squares, but with pieces coming in from the sides, as if the piece wasn't square on all sides.) 

3.  Empty talk?  Definitely not.  For one thing, you thought the Dutch Safety Board had not released their final report, and now you know they did it over six months ago.  Also, when this thread started you were talking about Ukrainian jets shooting air-to-air missiles at the plane, or jets using machine guns and THEN missiles, and the documentary you linked to even reportedly shows people who think it was bombs planted by the CIA and the Dutch.  If we at least agree that it was some kind of land-based anti-air missile, then that's progress from these silly ideas, even if you don't agree about what kind of land-based anti-air missile it was. 

Hopefully you will tell anyone you hear saying a fighter jet shot down MH17, "No, definitely it was anti-air missile from the ground," even if you still think it was from Ukrainians instead of rebels. 

4.  Just for fun ... what is your evidence that Ukraine has 9M38M1 missiles? 

As opposed to Russia, which ranks 180th out of 199 countries in terms of freedom of the press, (behind Iraq and Sudan) and where journalists that criticize the ruling regime are routinely murdered?

Oh, so much bullshit... )) Of course when USA makes the ratings it will pull Russia down... 
Also pls give me some information on 'routinely murdered' opposition journalists? Names, dates? ))

Again judged my countries with an agenda against Russia.  They're no angels but not as bad as you think. 

From Russian information? LOL

The Ukraninians showed actual phone recording of communication between Russian army and pro-russians fighters proving it was the pro-russians using Russian weapons that shot down that plane. At this point no world leader have any doubt of who shot down that plane... 

So it's just a huge coincidence that critics of Russia's leadership just happen to keep getting killed in suspicious circumstances?

Since 1992, Russia has had the 7th highest number of journalists killed of any country in the world: https://cpj.org/killed/