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Nettles said:
FragilE^ said:

SD are the largest party now in the latest polls.

Good to see a party focus on real issues rather than trying to ban urinals...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/sweden-left-party-toilet-stand_n_1590572.html

 

It took me one minute to follow links and get the information that "Left Party members of a Swedish county council said they want to encourage men using the council's toilets to sit during urination." 

There is no law to bans urinals, just council women man getting tired of filthy men,in the council, not being able to clean the toilet bowl after urinating.

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2012/06/11/Swedish-party-wants-sit-down-urination/UPI-70041339439528/

If you can read swedish here is another link about this news story from 2012.

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=87&artikel=5523624



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Europe has only itself to blame, you didn't give Turkey what it wanted, a safe zone in Syria to keep the refugees in with protection against Isis and Assad. Kind of hilarious how the Europeans act so surprised though, you don't just wish millions of displaced people away.



Turkish said:
Europe has only itself to blame, you didn't give Turkey what it wanted, a safe zone in Syria to keep the refugees in with protection against Isis and Assad. Kind of hilarious how the Europeans act so surprised though, you don't just wish millions of displaced people away.

Most immigrants are welfare seekers from Afganistan, Somalia, Morocco and alike.



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Puppyroach said:
Isn't it fascinating how people who criticize liberal values in this thread, that we are to tolerant and open, want us to say no to immigrants who flee countries free of liberal values, that are intolerant and closed?

So... silencing valid criticism of people that originate from countries that promotes anti-women/anti-gay culture and even condones sexual slavery of non-believers is a liberal value? Sneaking in the word, "flee", in order to refute a position that opponents never held and conflating disagreement with intolerance do not help either...

I also question your argumentative priorities. It seems that you're more concerned about painting yourself in a moral light than refuting counterarguments. When it comes to such serious political topics, emotions need to be cast away.



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0:56 will induce a lot of facepalms. "We didn't cover [the Stockholm Music Festival sexual assaults] up. Of course we didn't, but we didn't tell."

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I don't understand why other countries don't complain about refugees as much as the EU countries do? That last video you posted mentions Afghan refugees, but haven't many Afghan refugees gone to Australia, Canada, th US and UK, etc. ? Why aren't those countries complaining about them? I agree that Islam and the thinking of people from countries like Afghanistan give women very little respect, but why is Europe struggling to integrate these people into society if other Western countries have sucessfully done so? 



    

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Puppyroach said:
Nettles said:
Swedes really think that Islamic immigrants share their view on gay marriage, trans rights, gay pride parades?
Name one Islamic majority country which allows gay marriage? Youll find it far easier naming ones with the death penalty for homosexuality.Good luck with the whole integration thing.

It sounded like you described 90% of all Republican politicians there :).

So you think 90% of republican politicians support the death penalty for gay people? Get a grip, this is real life.

Still waiting for you to tell me the majority muslim countries who support gay marriage

, good luck keeping such laws when Sweden becomes islamic majority within the next 20 years.

 

As for my own views i think if gay pride marchers are able to march in Christian or Athiest majority areas they should be able to march in Islamic areas.Why the heck not? Yet the Swedish left disagrees, any gay prise march through muslim areas is "racist" (what race is islam?) 

The left, protesting AGAINST a gay pride parade? And you wonder why people think Sweden has gone batshit insane?http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2015/07/swedish-left-wing-outraged-over-gay-pride-parade-that-wants-to-march-through-muslim-areas/



m0ney said:
Turkish said:
Europe has only itself to blame, you didn't give Turkey what it wanted, a safe zone in Syria to keep the refugees in with protection against Isis and Assad. Kind of hilarious how the Europeans act so surprised though, you don't just wish millions of displaced people away.

Most immigrants are welfare seekers from Afganistan, Somalia, Morocco and alike.

So? They come in saying they are Syrians and automaticaly get in. If there was no Syrian crisis they wouldn't be able to get in, the levels of immigration would be the same like any other year.

 



M0ney are you a Latvian native or Russian descent?



Aura7541 said:

So... silencing valid criticism of people that originate from countries that promotes anti-women/anti-gay culture and even condones sexual slavery of non-believers is a liberal value? Sneaking in the word, "flee", in order to refute a position that opponents never held and conflating disagreement with intolerance do not help either...

I also question your argumentative priorities. It seems that you're more concerned about painting yourself in a moral light than refuting counterarguments. When it comes to such serious political topics, emotions need to be cast away.

What critiscism has been silenced?

And in my view you are completely wrong when it comes to discussing this issue. Emotions are very much needed whenever descisions are to be made in regards to human beings. Political descisions should always be made in a balance between our care for fellow humans, and the society as a whole. And the very basis to this thread seem to be emotional, not based on facts.



Nettles said:
Puppyroach said:

It sounded like you described 90% of all Republican politicians there :).

So you think 90% of republican politicians support the death penalty for gay people? Get a grip, this is real life.

Still waiting for you to tell me the majority muslim countries who support gay marriage

, good luck keeping such laws when Sweden becomes islamic majority within the next 20 years.

 

As for my own views i think if gay pride marchers are able to march in Christian or Athiest majority areas they should be able to march in Islamic areas.Why the heck not? Yet the Swedish left disagrees, any gay prise march through muslim areas is "racist" (what race is islam?) 

The left, protesting AGAINST a gay pride parade? And you wonder why people think Sweden has gone batshit insane?http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2015/07/swedish-left-wing-outraged-over-gay-pride-parade-that-wants-to-march-through-muslim-areas/

Yes, citing the trusted source of whaleoil.co.nz, they know what's up in Sweden!

That news story was just ridiculus. It was a nice excercise in reading with third grade critical thinking skills though. Basically the editor in cheif of an SD sympathizing newpaper wanted to make a "pride parade" through only muslim heavy areas. So naturally people were outraged that SD tried to hijack the gay pride movement for their own sinister agenda. Nothing weird about that.

Meanwhile in reality, when it's time for a real pride parade in gothenburg rainbow flags and posters are up everywhere in every neighbourhood. I know because I live there.

As for your earlier point of them holding homophobic views etc. Noone is saying that many of them don't, that's a strawman of yours. That is why we need to do a good job with something called integration.



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