AEGRO said:
AsGryffynn said:
It's 343 vs Naughty Dog... that and the userbase (since this is more to be expected from new titles, but after Rare Replay and the Master Chief Collection, I think I might have been selling remasters short). |
Thats the main issue with studios that are created with the single purpose of creating games from one franchise only, like 343 Industries.
It stunts their creativity and sooner than later they end destroying the franchise, specially when they werent the ones that created Halo in the first place.
Look at their resume:
| 2009 |
Halo Waypoint |
Android, iOS, Windows Phone, Xbox 360 |
| 2011 |
Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary[13] |
Xbox 360 |
| 2012 |
Halo 4[14] |
Xbox 360 |
| 2013 |
Halo: Spartan Assault[15] |
iOS, Windows, Windows Phone, Xbox 360, Xbox One |
| 2014 |
Halo Channel |
Windows, Windows Phone, Xbox One, Android |
| Halo: The Master Chief Collection[16] |
Xbox One |
| 2015 |
Halo: Spartan Strike[17] |
iOS, Windows, Windows Phone |
| Halo 5: Guardians[18] |
Xbox One |
| 2016 |
Halo Wars 2 |
Xbox One, Microsoft Windows
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Microsoft MUST learn that franchises eventually die and you have to move on with newer, fresher games.
Halo is obviously on the decline, a steep decline.
The sad thing is that i dont see Microsoft with a back up plan of their own.
Quantum Break, Scalebound and Sunset Overdrive are not from internal studios.
Forza and Halo are on the way down, and Gears will also have underwhelming sales, im sure of that.
What is going to be their answer to this?
Uncharted 4 will end the Nathan Drake saga on a high note so Naughty Dog can continue with The Last of Us franchise, and after TLOU who knows? But they have to stay creative and independent.
Imagine if Sony had twisted Naughty Dog arms to just create Uncharted games? We wouldnt have received one of The Best Games in Videogame History like The Last of Us.
Let 343i create another game and let the Halo franchise rest for a while at least.
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It isn't really that problem. The thing with 343 is that they are NOT Bungie. Halo 5 and above are completely different animals. I just now realized that Halo 4 was 343 trying to be Bungie and then saying "nope, not doing this shit. Let's try something else".
In other words, single game studios don't kill a franchise and Halo is far from dead, but they are not Bungie and 343's Forerunner saga isn't the Flood trilogy. As some people on Halo Waypoint commented, Halo 5 as a whole plays differently from earlier installments and feels more like an RPG. The original saga that Halo fans grew up with is Bungie's thing. The new games are Halo in name and characters only and are a completely new game that fans are only now realizing is not the Halo they know.
Because of that, the story is, for lack of a better word, starting from square one. They are doing what amounts to a Halo reboot.
So this translates into a slump in sales. The original fans will leave and others will replace them, that's why H5 and it's legs seem longer than those of the boom and bust games that arrived during Bungie's era. The series will have to start picking up steam again, but it's hardly dead.
LudicrousSpeed said:
AEGRO said:
AsGryffynn said:
It's 343 vs Naughty Dog... that and the userbase (since this is more to be expected from new titles, but after Rare Replay and the Master Chief Collection, I think I might have been selling remasters short). |
Thats the main issue with studios that are created with the single purpose of creating games from one franchise only, like 343 Industries.
It stunts their creativity and sooner than later they end destroying the franchise, specially when they werent the ones that created Halo in the first place.
Look at their resume:
| 2009 |
Halo Waypoint |
Android, iOS, Windows Phone, Xbox 360 |
| 2011 |
Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary[13] |
Xbox 360 |
| 2012 |
Halo 4[14] |
Xbox 360 |
| 2013 |
Halo: Spartan Assault[15] |
iOS, Windows, Windows Phone, Xbox 360, Xbox One |
| 2014 |
Halo Channel |
Windows, Windows Phone, Xbox One, Android |
| Halo: The Master Chief Collection[16] |
Xbox One |
| 2015 |
Halo: Spartan Strike[17] |
iOS, Windows, Windows Phone |
| Halo 5: Guardians[18] |
Xbox One |
| 2016 |
Halo Wars 2 |
Xbox One, Microsoft Windows
|
Microsoft MUST learn that franchises eventually die and you have to move on with newer, fresher games.
Halo is obviously on the decline, a steep decline.
The sad thing is that i dont see Microsoft with a back up plan of their own.
Quantum Break, Scalebound and Sunset Overdrive are not from internal studios.
Forza and Halo are on the way down, and Gears will also have underwhelming sales, im sure of that.
What is going to be their answer to this?
Uncharted 4 will end the Nathan Drake saga on a high note so Naughty Dog can continue with The Last of Us franchise, and after TLOU who knows? But they have to stay creative and independent.
Imagine if Sony had twisted Naughty Dog arms to just create Uncharted games? We wouldnt have received one of The Best Games in Videogame History like The Last of Us.
Let 343i create another game and let the Halo franchise rest for a while at least.
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lol @ destroying the franchise. From what I have played of Halo 5, it's better than anything since the first one. Forza 6 is also amazing. Horizon 2? Probably the best racer this gen. Or maybe MS should only be worried about sales and not quality?
Also, Sony does have studios that only release games in one franchise. Look what happened when SSM tried to do a game outside of the God of War franchise. It got canceled and people got laid off and now they're back to making another God of War (and this, of course, is after their last God of War game saw a "steep decline" as you put it). And of course Polyphony Digital, the GT machine for the last.. idk, nearly 20 years. Both companies have studios making bonafide money makers and both have other studios and third party deals for more risky stuff. That's how business works.
But logic has no place in this thread, lol.
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Multiplayer. They are complaining because of the campaign, the lack of splitscreen and the rather obvious lack of content upon release and that's all 343's fault for hyping the game. Fans were led on and had unrealistic expectations for Halo 5 that 343 couldn't fullfil, so they naturally felt backstabbed.
They really ought to stop the hype train before it derails and hits them in the face. That's their only fault...
That said, I too, endorse 343's creation of a non Halo game... preferably a RPG for the RPG starved XONE, since their stuff feels not unlike what Square Enix creates.
