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Justagamer on 23 December 2015
alabtrosMyster said:

I find your choice of numbers ad example quite a bit selective... However, there are some counter examples:

1 - The 3DS started slow and did not really pick up until Nintendo cut down the price and release Mario Kart on it (I think this was it, but it might have been a couple of games).

2 - The Xbox One and Wii U had VERY good launches, both system's first week were comparable to the PS4's (not as good, but very good).. neither is expected to reach 25 million, I'd be surprised if the Wii U reach 15...

3 - The Dreamcast was breaking sales record in its first year or so... still it's considered a failure by many

4 - The PS1 was clearly the dominant 32-bit console from the day it was released, compared to the Saturn everybody knew it was "on top" ... maybe what held it back a little at first was people waiting for Nintendo's entry... then the system disapointed enough people that they made the jump to Sony's system when came the time to upgrade...

You seriously think the xbox1 won't reach 25 million? Are you high?





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asqarkabab on 23 December 2015

Great writing



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Salnax on 23 December 2015

Very nice read

I have to wonder how FF7 became such a big deal in America even upon release. I know, it's great and pretty, but so were other games. Did Sony themselves push it that hard? Was the delay of N64 games like Zelda and Banno-Kazooie into 1998 partly to blame? Could it have to do with a larger rental market previously filling peoples' needs and not being sufficient for a long RPG?

Further investigation is needed.



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LemonSlice on 23 December 2015
JRPGfan said:
AZWification said:

Just imagine if FF7 would have been a N64 exclusive.. Nintendo really fucked up that gen.

N64 cartridges usually only had like 64mb on them right?

Final fantasy 7 was 4 CDs on the PS1 (even highly compressed its atleast 1.5 gigs worth of a game).

 

Imagine if instead of 4 CDs (for ps1), you had like 25 cartridges to play FF7 on the N64.

Please insert Cartridge #12 of 25, and load your save game.

FF7, which is 3 CDs BTW, has around 400MB of unique data (meaning extra data that is shared between the CDs is excluded) if FMV cutscenes are not counted. Backgrounds take about half of those 400 megs. Just making something clear, not disproving your point. Even though it could have been a single CD game it still couldn't fit on a cartridge (not to mention that even 3 CDs was a fraction of the price of a 64 meg cart at the time)



OdinHades on 23 December 2015
JRPGfan said:
AZWification said:

Just imagine if FF7 would have been a N64 exclusive.. Nintendo really fucked up that gen.

N64 cartridges usually only had like 64mb on them right?

Final fantasy 7 was 4 CDs on the PS1 (even highly compressed its atleast 1.5 gigs worth of a game).

 

Imagine if instead of 4 CDs (for ps1), you had like 25 cartridges to play FF7 on the N64.

Please insert Cartridge #12 of 25, and load your save game.

 


Resident Evil 2 still fitted on one single cartridge for the N64 though - with all the FMVs. So I'm pretty sure it would have been doable in some form.



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demonfox13 on 23 December 2015
AZWification said:

Just imagine if FF7 would have been a N64 exclusive.. Nintendo really fucked up that gen.

 


Lol yea, but then you forget the little game called Gran Turismo that gave PS1 ALL of Europe. Final Fantasy wasn't saving s$!^@t hehe. Maybe 3 Pokémon games releasing that Gen would've helped as all the children would've begged their parents to buy one.



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Rob5VGC on 23 December 2015
fatslob-:O said:

PS1 made a comeback ? I thought it was the starting point LOL ...

Sure it may have been a slow burner at first but it's not like Sony had any prior success been a console manufacturer at the time ...

PS3 to PS4 is what I'd call a "comeback" IMO ...

lol I had the same thoughts when I read the title.

That was a great read. It's pretty easy to see why the PS1 struggled, but it's great to see it overcome that and change gaming history in a positive way by saving the industry with it's "exclusives." :P

 

 





AZWification on 24 December 2015
demonfox13 said:
AZWification said:

Just imagine if FF7 would have been a N64 exclusive.. Nintendo really fucked up that gen.

 


Lol yea, but then you forget the little game called Gran Turismo that gave PS1 ALL of Europe. Final Fantasy wasn't saving s$!^@t hehe. Maybe 3 Pokémon games releasing that Gen would've helped as all the children would've begged their parents to buy one.

To be honest, Nintendo was never popular in  Europe. The Genesis did better than both the NES and SNES in that territory. The decline from the SNES to the N64 wasn't that noticeable ( from 7-8 million to 4-5 million). The N64 really suffered in Japan, due to the lack of JRPGs.





                
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johnsobas on 24 December 2015

good writeup, but i hate the use of the word comeback when it was never behind. I really don't understand why you use that word when it's not coming back from anything, especially when the playstation brand didn't even exist before the PS1.



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Imnus on 24 December 2015

Great post, thanks for the read.