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Will sales fall off a clif in the coming years?

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GamechaserBE on 30 November 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
GamechaserBE said:
That's what people said about the PS3 aswell...Around the same timeframe people on vgchartz were sure that with FFXIII also releasing on Xbox 360 the PS3 probably will struggle. With DQX on Wii and people being sure that KH3 will come to Wii aswell their was no reason to believe in the future of the PS3....So much can change in a year...


Sony is the only company that can come back from being eight million consoles behind in the gaming industry. While Microsoft had America, Sony had the world. All they had to do was stop screwing up their public image and analysts charted them to catch up with Microsoft by 2011. Of course they didnt account for the Kinect, so it took longer than that to catch up with Microsofts numbers. Again, only Sony can pull this off. They are truly the brand of the world and if they start their generation off correct, good luck getting third party support or any type of favors. EA screwed up big time expecting Microsoft to have truly had their number and now they are bringing the deals back to Sony, but Sony will not sign off on EA Access unless EA makes it worth it for them.

Analysts predicted the PS3 to win from the start and that Xbox 360 would do better than the Xbox and Wii doing worse than Gamecube. And every company can make a comeback sometimes you need luck and to take a lot of risk. Why did PS2 sell more than 2 million in it is first 3-4 months in Japan? Every analyst will tell you because of the DVD player so every analyst would also say with PS3's blu ray player the same will happen especially with sony promoting it more as blu ray player than a video game console at first, it didn't and nobody even on vgchartz expected it.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 30 November 2015

Analysts predicted the PS3 to win from the start and that Xbox 360 would do better than the Xbox and Wii doing worse than Gamecube. And every company can make a comeback sometimes you need luck and to take a lot of risk. Why did PS2 sell more than 2 million in it is first 3-4 months in Japan? Every analyst will tell you because of the DVD player so every analyst would also say with PS3's blu ray player the same will happen especially with sony promoting it more as blu ray player than a video game console at first, it didn't and nobody even on vgchartz expected it.

Sony is the major reason almost any major format from the CD era to now leveled out to an affordable market price . I wasnt talking about the expectation from the begining of the generation, but rather post launch when most gamers chose the 360 as a multiplatform prospect after they heard about the PS3's price and saw Microsoft was offering multiplats too (essentially...Sony screwed themselves). Watching the sales post PS3 launch it was on route to outsell the Xbox 360 and again...Sony wasnt expecting the Kinect to be the hit that pushed back their ascent to overtake the 360 before the generations end. The first analyst prediction was 2011 and in 2011 once they saw how well the Kinect was selling they raised the prediction date to 2013.



Ali_16x on 30 November 2015
Snoopy said:


Remember how uncharted 4 and such were suppose to be this year or bloodborne was last year.... Yeah, thats the thing about Sony or a lot of japanese companies in general. They tend to delay their games all the time. Also, the fact you use remasters or bad games to fluff your system line up tells it all. Remember when people use godzilla to make ps4 list look better. Yeah, I remember that and they took that off the list right away along with the rest of their games. I can almost gurantee you that games like TLG and Horizion will be delayed.


Lol are you being serious? It doesn't matter what you think, Sony has stated that those games are 2016, you we're saying they weren't. Plain and simple, you were wrong. You're basically saying, we aren't allowed to mention Horizon and TLG because they have the possibility of getting delayed? Lol, so ridiculous.

Hay look, Microsoft doesn't have anything for 2016, they have no games, because Scalebound, Crackdown, Gears of War 4 is going to be delayed because Quantum Break was also delayed so that means these games will too. /s

Lol and now remasters are bad? Microsoft includes Rare Replay and Gears of War Ultimate in their "Greatest Lineup" and you say nothing, but if it's a Sony remaster, oh crap, it's all fluff. And are remasters not games? Are people not going to buy them? Oh wait, they are, and that's the point of games, to play them and that's what people are going to do when they buy remasters. And only 3 of the 32 games are remasters, ooooo, so many remasters.

Oh and my favorite comment has to be, "bad games" LOL. For one, I didn't include those games like Godzilla or Onechanbara, I actually chose to pick games that actually look good, I didn't include Senran Kagura, Earth Defense Force, Hyperneptunia game and many other Japanese games. I already knew Godzilla was going to be shit, because it looked like it and I wouldn't have included it in my list. The games i listed are real JRPGs and quality games. I really doubt you even know anything about most of the Japanese games I listed other than the fact that they're Japanese. Also, Disgaea 5 (81 meta) and Dragon Quest Heroes (78 meta) are such bad games, lol.

If you think most of the Japanese games I listed are bad, please explain to me why they're bad. I want to see how you explain that they're on the level of Godzilla or Oneechanbara. You have no idea what you're talking about, you think just because they're Japanese games, they're bad. My god, what a horrible way of thinking.



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Snoopy on 30 November 2015
Ali_16x said:
Snoopy said:


Remember how uncharted 4 and such were suppose to be this year or bloodborne was last year.... Yeah, thats the thing about Sony or a lot of japanese companies in general. They tend to delay their games all the time. Also, the fact you use remasters or bad games to fluff your system line up tells it all. Remember when people use godzilla to make ps4 list look better. Yeah, I remember that and they took that off the list right away along with the rest of their games. I can almost gurantee you that games like TLG and Horizion will be delayed.


Lol are you being serious? It doesn't matter what you think, Sony has stated that those games are 2016, you we're saying they weren't. Plain and simple, you were wrong. You're basically saying, we aren't allowed to mention Horizon and TLG because they have the possibility of getting delayed? Lol, so ridiculous.

Hay look, Microsoft doesn't have anything for 2016, they have no games, because Scalebound, Crackdown, Gears of War 4 is going to be delayed because Quantum Break was also delayed so that means these games will too. /s

Lol and now remasters are bad? Microsoft includes Rare Replay and Gears of War Ultimate in their "Greatest Lineup" and you say nothing, but if it's a Sony remaster, oh crap, it's all fluff. And are remasters not games? Are people not going to buy them? Oh wait, they are, and that's the point of games, to play them and that's what people are going to do when they buy remasters. And only 3 of the 32 games are remasters, ooooo, so many remasters.

Oh and my favorite comment has to be, "bad games" LOL. For one, I didn't include those games like Godzilla or Onechanbara, I actually chose to pick games that actually look good, I didn't include Senran Kagura, Earth Defense Force, Hyperneptunia game and many other Japanese games. I already knew Godzilla was going to be shit, because it looked like it and I wouldn't have included it in my list. The games i listed are real JRPGs and quality games. I really doubt you even know anything about most of the Japanese games I listed other than the fact that they're Japanese. Also, Disgaea 5 (81 meta) and Dragon Quest Heroes (78 meta) are such bad games, lol.

If you think most of the Japanese games I listed are bad, please explain to me why they're bad. I want to see how you explain that they're on the level of Godzilla or Oneechanbara. You have no idea what you're talking about, you think just because they're Japanese games, they're bad. My god, what a horrible way of thinking.

Microsoft has a better track record (not perfect) than Sony regarding release dates. Sony is usually off with their release dates. If you actually believe in them then go ahead. Chances are they won't release the games on time.

Most of those remasters like gears were actually remade outside of rare replay. If you include old games with slight upgrades I guess I can include the 360 bc.

I never said all Japanese games are bad and there you go assuming. Also, most Japanese Anime games if not all don't appeal to the common person or hardly anyone ( around 30,000 sales first month for dragon quest lol). Its like me recommending anyone sesame street here for the kinect because it got good reviews.Unless you have a little kid its a tough sale. Its fine people like you love anime games and all, but most people don't care about those games and its the reason why they are dying off fast. Those games are usually use to fluff the ps4 list, but no one really buys it and I guarantee you most people who make the list don't buy it either. So there isn't much point listing those games other than fluff. Lastly, a lot of those anime games you're talking highly about you can find on the ps3 so it isn't really exclusive at all. Games like persona 5 were made with ps3 in mind and ported to ps4. Won't be much of a difference other than resolution. If you can include ps3 games does this mean I can include xbox 360 games running on xbox one through bc or PC games that are going to be on xbox one like city skyline?



zorg1000 on 30 November 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
zorg1000 said:

All of that is kinda irrelevant to what he said, he's just talking about sales in which case he's right. XB1 sells well and is competitive with PS4 in America, not so much in other regions, just like N64.

Here's the thing. Xbox has always had more success in the US than Europe. Also, Xbox isn't as dead in Europe as people seem to think. Its getting trounced by PS4, but its not doing as bad as N64 either. I'm thinking X1 do 15 million in Europe. A far cry from N64's 6 million. If N64 managed to do 15 million in Europe, that would have been a great success.

Note how I blocked all non-American regions together, Xbox having more of a presence in Europe is easily countered by N64 selling over 5 million in Japan. America makes up about 60% of global XB1 sales similar to N64. But even so, XB1-15m vs PS4-50m in Europe isn't really all that different to N64-6m vs PS1-37m.



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GamechaserBE on 30 November 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Analysts predicted the PS3 to win from the start and that Xbox 360 would do better than the Xbox and Wii doing worse than Gamecube. And every company can make a comeback sometimes you need luck and to take a lot of risk. Why did PS2 sell more than 2 million in it is first 3-4 months in Japan? Every analyst will tell you because of the DVD player so every analyst would also say with PS3's blu ray player the same will happen especially with sony promoting it more as blu ray player than a video game console at first, it didn't and nobody even on vgchartz expected it.

Sony is the major reason almost any major format from the CD era to now leveled out to an affordable market price . I wasnt talking about the expectation from the begining of the generation, but rather post launch when most gamers chose the 360 as a multiplatform prospect after they heard about the PS3's price and saw Microsoft was offering multiplats too (essentially...Sony screwed themselves). Watching the sales post PS3 launch it was on route to outsell the Xbox 360 and again...Sony wasnt expecting the Kinect to be the hit that pushed back their ascent to overtake the 360 before the generations end. The first analyst prediction was 2011 and in 2011 once they saw how well the Kinect was selling they raised the prediction date to 2013.

Expectations is exactly my point, it is simply wrong to assume things after 2 years into a generation. Last generation we had threads after two years were most VGChartz users agreed that Wii is going to beat PS2 total sales and that PS3/Xbox 360 will not manage to sell 50 million and if you didn't believe in it you were basically called an idiot. 



Sprash on 30 November 2015
NightDragon83 said:
Sure... just like the PS3 fell off a cliff after its abysmal start last gen and getting trounced in sales by the Wii and 360 early on... oh wait.

The days of a single console dominating a gaming generation are long over. Those wishing for a repeat of the 6th gen where PlayStation gets all the big 3rd party releases all to themselves while Nintendo and M$ are left in the dust to duke it out over scraps for a distant 2nd are in for a rude awakening. Sony might be running away on their home turf in Europe and Japan, but despite the terrible pre-launch PR and $100 higher price point, the sales gap between the X1 and the PS4 in North America is less than a million. As long as the X1 keeps pace with the PS4 in its strongest region, it won't be going near any cliffs anytime soon.

So having a marketshare over 50% isn't dominating?



 

 

the_dark_lewd on 30 November 2015

Titanfall didn't do as well as they'd expected?

It's sold about 5 million. Pretty good for a new IP really.



Sprash on 30 November 2015
peterdavid12345 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Nah. Sony's going for 100 or more this gen. Its already outselling the PS2. Remember they sell their consoles for a decade and the console launched two years ago.


Lmfao! you wish XD!

Look man, i love Sony and the PlayStation and i would love to have that happened but that's pure fictional number right there.

Wanna bet ;) ?

I bet, the ps4 is easily selling more than the ps1



 

 

LukeBR on 30 November 2015

No, Xbox gone have another great year in 2016, despite haters's opinion !! Quantum Break, Gears 4, Scalebound, Crackdown, Halo Wars 2, Recore, Sea of Thieves, Killer Instinct: Season 3, Fable Legends !!