You misunderstand my post, I merely said what SHOULD happen, not what WILL happen.

As long as a large percentage of the Americans remain uneducated about their own laws, history and criminology little will change.

Not so long ago people thought it was impossible for black people to become president or gay people to be able to marry in all states btw...

It's not plausible to argue that guns are not generally more effective than other things a murderer has ready access to, though.

He appears to have shot himself when cornered. Besides, I doubt a jury would buy the temporary insanity defense in this case. The facts do not appear to support such a defense.

I would argue this statistic is inflated largely due to other American police practices, training, and mindset, but I generally agree that this number would likely decrease with fewer guns in the hands of the public.

I understood you perfectly. I just believe that the horse "let's make guns illegal in the US" shouldn't be beaten anymore especially since it doesn't add anything of value to discussion. Simply because it won't happen. 

As I said before, other solutions would reduce violence and ciminal activity in more effective ways. It's just too logical. 

Ah, yes, americans in general are probably more violent than europeans but that's fine. Countries with various cultures in 'em or neighbors with opposing cultures seem to be this way as far as I can tell.  

Law abidiing people don't fear the guns of cops. It's simple. The news likes to play it up differently than the truth in order to promote a political agenda. You're too smart to be that guilible about it.  Criminals like to play at being the victim in order to get away with their crimes. It's become a trend because it works to some degree. 

There's zero excuse for police men shooting unarmed people to death. Something that happens frequently in the USA.

US is a mix of European elements (thus creating something new yes).

And just because you don't want a debate about the gun policy in the USA doesn't mean we don't need it. And just because someone wants to make gun laws stricter, doesn't mean that they think that alone will fix everything. Stricter gun laws don't come at the cost of other ideas to improve the crime rates in the USA.

so it was because his gun, he killed people. not because he was gay and black, and claimed victimhood status. and per his manifesto wanted revenge

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The vast majority of the time, a cop will not shoot someone unless they did something to warrant it. Cops get killed in the line of duty over $100 tickets or because some people didn't want to go to jail for a few days. Because of this, cops have to be careful with people they deal with and have to determine if a someone poses a threat to them in a span of sec or two. A cop can't read a person's mind so he or she has to go by a person's actions to determine how compliant they will be and their intentions. Cops do not have to wait til they are shot at to shoot someone. All it takes is for a cop to think that a person poses a reasonable threat to their life. 

Actually, democrats fixate on wanting to make guns laws redicously stricter but they can't. It costs untold of amounts of money to fight over it and it goes nowhere but in circles. It draws attention away from other solutions to crime and other problems.

You want to focus on something that can not be changed but only by a tiny degree. There's no point on beating a dead horse. It's a done deal. In what other ways, do you think america can do to make it's streets safer (lower crime overall) besides making stricter gun laws?

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I'm fairly certain he's saying that permissive gun laws allowed the murderer to more easily kill these two people and wound a third, not that the gun laws themselves somehow caused the guy to go and commit the murders.

I'm also personally of the belief that neither his race nor his sexuality had much of anything to do with this matter: they're excuses he latched on to at best. The line in his rambling manifesto that he's "all fucked up in the head" pretty much sums it up.