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FloatingWaffles on 21 July 2015
yvanjean said:

1. The console can't be expensive, around $250.

2. The NX will have to be vastly more powerful then WiiU, can't be a step backward.

3. Backward compability and full integration of WiiU marketplace is a must. 

4. I would be happy with hybrid console and portable device has long as it's more powerfull then a WiiU.

5. I don't need the NX to have 3rd party support, just a great line up from Nintendo and Partners.

6. Nintendo need to focus on core gamers, if NX is marketed for kids and casual, I'll simply wait out 2-3 years and buy every thing used.


Your 1st point contradicts your 2nd and 4th point.

Also you keep saying stuff like "It's going to be weaker than the PS4 and Xbox One, that's a given" and that the NX is meant to be a secondary console as if you even know what the NX is before anyone else.

It's like you want Nintendo to have another Wii U on their hands and have it not sell well and lose all 3rd party support. While you specifically might not care about 3rd party support on a Nintendo console that doesn't mean others agree with you. 



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yvanjean on 21 July 2015
FloatingWaffles said:
yvanjean said:

1. The console can't be expensive, around $250.

2. The NX will have to be vastly more powerful then WiiU, can't be a step backward.

3. Backward compability and full integration of WiiU marketplace is a must. 

4. I would be happy with hybrid console and portable device has long as it's more powerfull then a WiiU.

5. I don't need the NX to have 3rd party support, just a great line up from Nintendo and Partners.

6. Nintendo need to focus on core gamers, if NX is marketed for kids and casual, I'll simply wait out 2-3 years and buy every thing used.


Your 1st point contradicts your 2nd and 4th point.

Also you keep saying stuff like "It's going to be weaker than the PS4 and Xbox One, that's a given" and that the NX is meant to be a secondary console as if you even know what the NX is before anyone else.

It's like you want Nintendo to have another Wii U on their hands and have it not sell well and lose all 3rd party support. While you specifically might not care about 3rd party support on a Nintendo console that doesn't mean others agree with you. 

It doesn't contradict, I'm simply stating that the Hardware should be much better then WiiU in order to handle HD graphic better and It needs to be done at a budget price since Nintendo always target casual market and familly friendly. That's why the launch price should me more like the Wii which launch at $250. 

The NX is going to release either next year or the year after that, The PS4 and Xbox one will have a strong foot hold and a large install base. If you think that 3rd party are going to jump ship to support NX that doesn't have an establish install base, your are sadly mistaken. Nintendo itself is a 3rd party killer since they make some of the best games and Nintendo fans are more likely to buy first games. That's why I think the NX should be more powerful then WiiU in order to receive quick port from 3rd party but they in order to get the right MSRP the NX is not going to be more powerful then PS4 or Xbox One. 

I only stating my opinion but looking at Nintendo history it's more likely that Nintendo will follow the casual friendly approach and have a machine that's more cost effective then costly and super powered.



Smear-Gel on 21 July 2015
FromDK said:

First.. this is about NX (handheld)


Oh good, I'm not a loner



Smear-Gel on 21 July 2015
traveler72 said:
Smear-Gel said:


Well it's gonna be a handheld imo so lower power is a given, yeah.

But expecting them to make the hardware vastly more powerful and yet lowering the price to something Wii U isnt even at yet is really, really pushing it. If it was a console.

Well, even though wii u is at $299, it could already be $199 without bundled software. But it's true that for $249 in 2016 it would still not be possible for a hardware to be vastly supeior. Give it a 2017 release starting at $299 and we can star talking.


It's likely gonna launch with the same price as the Wii U but be more powerful. And it's likely a 2017 thing too.

 

If it was a home console I mean.



qwertyDANIELqwerty on 21 July 2015

Just a normal freaking controller... :(



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Snoopy on 21 July 2015

If Nintendo NX wants to be successful it needs to be priced at 200 dollars. Have a normal controller. Don't try to compete with ps4 and xbox one in terms of graphics. Hardly anyone is going to buy the console for third party support. Release all your nintendo great games (basically like the game cube). However, the one thing they need to do most and by far is to make new ips and constantly make them. As soon as you stop, so does the sales of Nintendo NX.



Edwardooo on 21 July 2015

I just want good games. Taking risks in partnerships just like the Wii U did (The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Devil's Third even if this one failed).

Oh and a controller which last more than 3 hours.

Thanks Nintendo, love u.



FromDK on 21 July 2015
Smear-Gel said:
FromDK said:

First.. this is about NX (handheld)


Oh good, I'm not a loner

NX could offcourse be a home console.. (in that case it would not be like anything descibed in this tread.. Becourse Nintendo said "brand new concept".. AND they did say some days after.. that it's NOT the "hybrid" .. in that case we should espect some kind of +VR system..(if it's a home system)

(I can imagne some other ways to do VR.. who will still fit the "brand new concept".. some tv+projektor console.. or mayby thin 3d glasses with "effects" and sound.. just to name some.. (and we talking Nintendo.. who knows..)

BUT most likely.. until other is said.. we should expect NX to be a handheld..  (and how will a handheld fit "brand new concept".. :)

IMO.. The hole NX talk is pointless at this moment.. 1-3 tread should deal with the fact that Nintendo is not out of hardware and we will most likely see both a handheld and a homesystem within 3 years.. (and they even said they will share more next year) and like last 4 consoles (DS/3DS/Wii/WiiU) they will feture some new way to game..



celestriad on 26 July 2015
yvanjean said:
traveler72 said:

Yeah, you're very wrong at that. Hardware manufacturer's wnt their product to be bought INSTEAD of the competitors. Expecting the manufacturers to make a console without believing in it is unrealistic.

You need to remember what they did with the Wii and WiiU. WiiU failures can be attributed to the inclusion of gamepad that never had killer software to warrant the purchase not the underpowered WiiU hardware.  Nintendo strategy has been to focus on family friendly product that can attract the casual market. Nintedo isn't going to be competing with the Xbox one and PS4 especially since these console are in the 3-4 year of their current cycle. It would foolish to make a powerful machine with high price tag that meant to replace current gen hardware. Instead the NX is going to be a casual friendly product that offer something diffent. Casual friendly market price for a console is $250-299. Therefore, expect the NX to have what power that can by squeeze in a price tag of $299.

"Nintendo strategy has been to focus on family friendly product that can attract the casual market"

"Nintedo isn't going to be competing with the Xbox one and PS4 especially since these console are in the 3-4 year of their current cycle"

"It would foolish to make a powerful machine with high price tag that meant to replace current gen hardware"

"Instead the NX is going to be a casual friendly product that offer something diffent"

gosh, cut the crap. nintendo always competes with sony and ms, with the difference that nintendo actually targets real gamers. Of course the next console WILL be meant to replace current hardware, that's the whole point of releasing a new system in all kinds of industries.



celestriad on 26 July 2015
yvanjean said:
FloatingWaffles said:


Your 1st point contradicts your 2nd and 4th point.

Also you keep saying stuff like "It's going to be weaker than the PS4 and Xbox One, that's a given" and that the NX is meant to be a secondary console as if you even know what the NX is before anyone else.

It's like you want Nintendo to have another Wii U on their hands and have it not sell well and lose all 3rd party support. While you specifically might not care about 3rd party support on a Nintendo console that doesn't mean others agree with you. 

It doesn't contradict, I'm simply stating that the Hardware should be much better then WiiU in order to handle HD graphic better and It needs to be done at a budget price since Nintendo always target casual market and familly friendly. That's why the launch price should me more like the Wii which launch at $250. 

The NX is going to release either next year or the year after that, The PS4 and Xbox one will have a strong foot hold and a large install base. If you think that 3rd party are going to jump ship to support NX that doesn't have an establish install base, your are sadly mistaken. Nintendo itself is a 3rd party killer since they make some of the best games and Nintendo fans are more likely to buy first games. That's why I think the NX should be more powerful then WiiU in order to receive quick port from 3rd party but they in order to get the right MSRP the NX is not going to be more powerful then PS4 or Xbox One. 

I only stating my opinion but looking at Nintendo history it's more likely that Nintendo will follow the casual friendly approach and have a machine that's more cost effective then costly and super powered.

"The PS4 and Xbox one will have a strong foot hold and a large install base"

just like most consoles when a new generation starts after 5 years.

"If you think that 3rd party are going to jump ship to support NX that doesn't have an establish install base, your are sadly mistaken. "

why would anyone "jump ship"? 3rds don't have to abandon anything in order to be professional.

"Nintendo itself is a 3rd party killer since they make some of the best games and Nintendo fans are more likely to buy first games"

ridiculous bullshit.