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I would say I am mostly conservative. I really don't see anything wrong with the system as it was before Obama. The US really needs a president with some balls next time.

OP states about everyone getting equal pay, but it would just not work. Why in the world would a Walmart cashier deserve as much as someone in a technical field? The economy is set up like a pyramid for a reason. The want of being better.

You want free housing for everyone through taxes? What about someone who is just squatting and not working. And no one can buy property, just rent it for free through taxes that you don't have to pay cause you can't get kicked out? Sorry that sounds like someone who wants free stuff for doing nothing.

The system doesn't reward the dim or lazy and it never should.

You don't believe in the death penalty, but I get the feeling you support abortion?



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OP, I don't mean to be rude but I would most certainly describe your position as communist ...

Socially speaking, I have views similar to yours ...

Economically, I would never be compatible with you since I don't approve of people having equal pay or a maximum wage and I totally feel it's fair for corporations or the market to determine ones worth even though I might get the short end of the stick. What's not normal is equality since many things in life are about inequalities ...



supafly said:
I would say I am mostly conservative. I really don't see anything wrong with the system as it was before Obama. The US really needs a president with some balls next time.

OP states about everyone getting equal pay, but it would just not work. Why in the world would a Walmart cashier deserve as much as someone in a technical field? The economy is set up like a pyramid for a reason. The want of being better.

You want free housing for everyone through taxes? What about someone who is just squatting and not working.

The system doesn't reward the dim or lazy and it never should.

You don't believe in the death penalty, but I get the feeling you support abortion?

The people that get the low paying jobs are much more important than the people at the top; without them how would we be able to buy anything? The system as-is doesn't reward those who work hard: many people who work much more than full-time struggle to pay their bills. Yes, I support abortion: I don't care if a fetus without a conscience is killed to help the family avoid something that they can't handle.



VGPolyglot said:
supafly said:
I would say I am mostly conservative. I really don't see anything wrong with the system as it was before Obama. The US really needs a president with some balls next time.

OP states about everyone getting equal pay, but it would just not work. Why in the world would a Walmart cashier deserve as much as someone in a technical field? The economy is set up like a pyramid for a reason. The want of being better.

You want free housing for everyone through taxes? What about someone who is just squatting and not working.

The system doesn't reward the dim or lazy and it never should.

You don't believe in the death penalty, but I get the feeling you support abortion?

The people that get the low paying jobs are much more important than the people at the top; without them how would we be able to buy anything? The system as-is doesn't reward those who work hard: many people who work much more than full-time struggle to pay their bills. Yes, I support abortion: I don't care if a fetus without a conscience is killed to help the family avoid something that they can't handle.


You can't affirm they are more important. The people at the top are the ones giving them jobs. They are the ones taking care of the business. They are the ones planning how to correctly meet our demand. They're not just sitting on a chair scratching their balls. They paid their dues. 

Our system is not about who works harder, but who offers value to society. Which diamond is more valuable: one that is found by chance in ten seconds or one that took years to be found? They are worth the same, regardless of how many hours of work were put into finding them. Working hard doesn't mean offering value. If that were the case, bodybuilders would be filthy rich.



I agree with most of what you are saying.

Like the death penalty – it should never be tolerated in a civilized society.

But like the marriage between parent/sibling - isn't really needed as they are already family.  It’s not like they will be thrown out from seeing their loved one by a freak odd homophobic nurse.

No more countries?  That would be great, but I don't expect to see that in my lifetime.  The destructive and selfish influences of religion will keep that from happening for a while.  Such as “Sure, have as many kids as you want ‘God’ will provide.”  People use that as an excuse to destroy resources and over populate.

Maximum earn rate?  You bet.  The horrible extreme where recently a health care CEO make like a 50+ million dollar bonus, basically denying people the health care they paid for.  That is obscene and shouldn't be tolerated.

The only major disagreement, at lest in philosophy, is direct democracy.  In a republic, we pay people to study the issues - and hopefully, be more noble and thoughtful that we would ourselves.  Few people have time to live their lives AND understand the issues well enough to vote on them.



 

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So your pro life, but only for those who deserve to die, and not pro life when its an 'inconvenience' for someone. No problem giving someone the death penalty before they are even born. There are programs to help people out to pay for a child such as food stamps, Medicaid, hell even housing. Its not about having consciousness at all. Its about denying life a future, not giving them a chance to live, and removing them from time. You contradict yourself believing that 'all life is precious'.

I think the only thing I would change to the current way things are is to give states more individual power on laws. And stop the fed from acting like a big nanny. 



I have none. Politics is a game where elite rich billionaires use puppets to control the uninformed, weak minded populous. I am neither.



AlfredoTurkey said:
I have none. Politics is a game where elite rich billionaires use puppets to control the uninformed, weak minded populous. I am neither.


No fewer words could have summed up so much.



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I'm pretty liberal, by American standards at least.

I'm gay marriage and I'm fine with polygamy. Not a fan of making incest legal. Incest increases the odds of birth defects which both means a worse life for the child and increased costs associated with taking care of them.

Pro-choice

I support legalizing lesser drugs such as weed, but not harder drugs like Meth or LSD. Those are life ruining drugs and the people who use them are also pretty likely to disrupt the lives of those around them. In other words, there is no such thing as a "victim-less crime".

I think healthcare should be a public service, like the police, or fire department.

I think college should be included in regular public education. Make community, and state universities free, and allow for credits to help pay for private colleges.

I'm not against representative democracy, but I think elections need to be much more stringent. Campaigns should be formalized so each candidate gets the same amount of coverage and just as much chance to get their message out.

I think we need an immediate, and worldwide limit on having kids. Our population is our biggest issue and nobody seems to be doing much of anything about it.

Just some thoughts off the top of my head.

P.S. I don't think you've thought your idea of everybody have necessities provided for them, or the idea of not having countries.

There simply aren't enough resources on the planet to provide anything like the lifestyle I imagine most on here are used to if everybody gets the same amount. Plus, there are parts of the world that just don't have the economic strength to contribute as much as others, what you'd end up with is places like Europe and North America working extra hard to make sure people in Africa have as much as they do without Africa being able to contribute much of anything in return.

The idea of no countries is odd to me...mostly because I don't really see a benefit. People are different, they have different values and want different things. Having separate countries gives those people the ability to express those differences and make laws based on their own values.



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