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sabvre42 on 21 May 2015
JRPGfan said:
bevochan said:
I rather see a Vita minor upgrade with another proper L2 and R2 button (but at the same price $199)


honestly no, think that would be the wrong way to go.

Device is already expensive enough. Without a redesign that could potentially make it more expensive thanks to a upg.

 

It needs a price cut alot more than it needs a upg and/or R2/L2.

Spec wise the thing is a monster compaired to the 3d, no upg needed minor or not.

 

It just needs to be cheaper.


I agree with the L2/R2 buttons. That alone would probably motivate me to buy a second vita.

The vita is no longer a stand alone console. That failed. Now the Vita needs to be considered a PS4 Remote play/ PS Now/ PS Vue device that can also play PS Vita, PSP, PS2 and PS1 games. (Vita is the only device that can play FF 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 & 10-2).



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MikeRox on 22 May 2015
gigantor21 said:
Nem said:
gigantor21 said:

If they had that kind of headroom for a price drop, we should've seen it get one a while ago. They've been losing millions on the Vita as it is.


What sort of nosense is this? Sony has not been losing millions on the Vita. They never sold it at a loss. It's one of the reasons why it failed.

That "nonsense" comes directly from their most recent financial reports:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/17/8231217/sony-playstation-financial-results-q3-2014

"The G&NS division's operating income increased to $228 million but was offset by a $93 million write-down of components for PS Vita and PlayStation TV. "This write-down was recorded because the latest forecast of PS TV unit sales does not reach our original forecast as a result of lower than expected unit sales in the current quarter," the document explains."


You know a "write down" isn't a loss right? Its mainly depreciation being stated because of overstated value in the first place.

In cash terms it means nothing.

Look at Tesco and Sainaburys reporting losses this last month. They didn't actually lose any money. They wrote down the values of their property portfolios. (A bi product being they no longer have to pay any tax for this last year)

The hardware itself has always been sold at/above what they paid to build it. That was why they didn't follow suit when Nintendo panicked and slashed the retail of the 3DS bleeding millions in the process.



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Nem on 22 May 2015
gigantor21 said:
Nem said:


Its still income isnt it? That says it could have been bigger if they hadnt overestimated demand. But that is their own fault for not even trying to create that demand with first party titles. Also, i imagine this is because of the PSTV price cut. Vita price wasnt slashed, therefore it cant have been losing millions for Sony. Its not sold at a loss.

I specifically said they were "losing millions", not that they were being sold "at a loss". Between the writeoff and declining PS3 sales, the PS4 is what is pulling in money for the division. 


They arent. They are making a profit. You are only looking at the expenses and ignoring that the units sold made revenue that resulted in profit.

228-93= +135m in profit!



Mr.Playstation on 22 May 2015

PS4 price drop is very realistic and in all honesty so does the PS Vita one.



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Dr.Vita on 22 May 2015
sabvre42 said:
JRPGfan said:


honestly no, think that would be the wrong way to go.

Device is already expensive enough. Without a redesign that could potentially make it more expensive thanks to a upg.

 

It needs a price cut alot more than it needs a upg and/or R2/L2.

Spec wise the thing is a monster compaired to the 3d, no upg needed minor or not.

 

It just needs to be cheaper.


I agree with the L2/R2 buttons. That alone would probably motivate me to buy a second vita.

The vita is no longer a stand alone console. That failed. Now the Vita needs to be considered a PS4 Remote play/ PS Now/ PS Vue device that can also play PS Vita, PSP, PS2 and PS1 games. (Vita is the only device that can play FF 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 & 10-2).


PS3?




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sabvre42 on 22 May 2015
Dr.Vita said:
sabvre42 said:


I agree with the L2/R2 buttons. That alone would probably motivate me to buy a second vita.

The vita is no longer a stand alone console. That failed. Now the Vita needs to be considered a PS4 Remote play/ PS Now/ PS Vue device that can also play PS Vita, PSP, PS2 and PS1 games. (Vita is the only device that can play FF 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 & 10-2).


PS3?

 

FF 3,4 & 6 (some would say the best game) are PSP games :).



ArchangelMadzz on 22 May 2015

You can't make the Vita cheaper than PSTV.. SURELY?



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sabvre42 on 22 May 2015
ArchangelMadzz said:
You can't make the Vita cheaper than PSTV.. SURELY?


It depends. They could upgrade the DS3 bundle to a DS4 and actually ship it with a reasonable sized memory card. But if that doesn't happen... i agree.



outlawauron on 22 May 2015
ArchangelMadzz said:
You can't make the Vita cheaper than PSTV.. SURELY?

PSTV is going for $40 and cheaper in some places, so even at $89 it wouldn't close.



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cannonballZ on 22 May 2015

I would purchase a Vita at that price!!