Ka-pi96 said:
Madword said:
Ka-pi96 said:
The Fury said: The only ones who want out of the EU are the overly spoken. I mean you hear about Greece's far right a lot recently but not everyone else. Our EU membership needs to remain, it's just the scaremongering being done by UKIP is louder than anything else. If the general sensible people of the UK voted, we'd stay in the EU. Our issues don't come from there, it comes from our benefits system. |
Agreed, that needs some serious sorting out. There's more problems than just that, but the EU isn't one of them.
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That's not entirely true. The EU does give many benefits, but it is also extremely expensive and wasteful. I mean they make the UK parliment look like beginners with expenses. :)
I would rather stay in europe, but it needs modernising. It reminds me a bit of FIFA, kind of an old boys club who dont want to reform because they have it so good.
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Yeah you do have a point. The EU does have problems as well, but it's in the UK's best interests to stay in and try to fix those problems than to just leave.
I wonder just how many of the EU's problems could have been avoided if it hadn't expanded so much and to countries with such weak economies (relative to the main European ones at least).
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The problem with the EU is that they tollerate everything (from certain countries especially France) and are punishing others for not making an agreement where other countries get delays. The UK needed to pay a 2 billion tax because there economy grew in 2014, the Netherlands had to pay half a billion euro's while France recieved one billion euro's. The EU has become a help institute for the poor and by that becomes obnoxious to the strong economies in Europe, which have to pay and pay and pay. Yet they don't have any real influence on that countries policy's the EU should become more punishing towards countries that screw up. Take Greece for instance I would say if Greece doesn't have their crap in order within 6 months or haven't made any improvement an EU force should make a plan for them. If they don't agree to that plan they stop recieving money and will be kicked out of the EU.
The EU should become more assertive and draw clear lines, which are for every EU member, saying Greece, Spain, Ireland, Portugal and Italy are to blame is not the whole story. Stupid policy's and untransparrent actions brought the EU where it is today, if EU's policy's where clear and if there were clear boundaries to economics and membership the EU would be much stronger and actually relevant instead of the weak uncertain market it is today.