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I agree, I'm late to the party. I was too much stressed last year to pay attention, but I had made a bet with Lawlight about the shipments of the PS3 in 2013. He claimed the PS3 would surely ship stable, at least 11 million:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5317639

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5317673

It's hard to get shipment data. But VGC has the PS3 at 8 million sold in 2013. Even with incredible overshipping and extreme bad tracking from VGCs side, 11 million are just impossible.

So I declare myself - somewhat late - as the winner of this bet. Any objections?

And yes, it was even in the mid of 2013 pretty clear that 11 million would be impossible. That's why I made the bet in the first place.

As lawlights profile seems to be hidden I create a thread instead of posting to his wall.



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Mnementh said:

I agree, I'm late to the party. I was too much stressed last year to pay attention, but I had made a bet with Lawlight about the shipments of the PS3 in 2013. He claimed the PS3 would surely ship stable, at least 11 million:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5317639

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5317673

It's hard to get shipment data. But VGC has the PS3 at 8 million sold in 2013. Even with incredible overshipping and extreme bad tracking from VGCs side, 11 million are just impossible.

So I declare myself - somewhat late - as the winner of this bet. Any objections?

And yes, it was even in the mid of 2013 pretty clear that 11 million would be impossible. That's why I made the bet in the first place.

As lawlights profile seems to be hidden I create a thread instead of posting to his wall.

Shipped not sold. The problem is that we do not know how many were shipped.



RolStoppable said:
Lawlight said:

Shipped not sold. The problem is that we do not know how many were shipped.

You've lost the bet. Admit defeat.

EDIT: Here's the collected and estimated shipment data for the PS3. Roughly 8m for calendar year 2013, so it fell 3m short of the goal.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4067675


That's nice but I'd like the source for those shipped numbers.



Lawlight said:
 

Shipped not sold. The problem is that we do not know how many were shipped.

Really? You claim shops put 3 million units on shelves?



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RolStoppable said:
Lawlight said:

That's nice but I'd like the source for those shipped numbers.

Here's the deal: The mod team can change usernames now. If you refuse to concede that you lost the bet (and you did lose it without a shred of a doubt), I'll talk the mods into changing your name to Sore_Loser for the duration of a month. If you try to dodge that by creating another account, there will obviously be a punishment for your main account on top of the alt getting permabanned.


I'm just asking for proof of PS3 numbers shipped. And another VGChartz post isn't proof.



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RolStoppable said:
Lawlight said:

I'm just asking for proof of PS3 numbers shipped. And another VGChartz post isn't proof.

The post I linked to is a compilation of the numbers that were taken from financial reports, i.e. shipment numbers straight from Sony themselves.

This is the last chance you get, because you've fooled around enough already.


So, I should take your word for it? No - I'd like official sources. Other than that, do whatever you want. If mods want to rule by simply taking your word for it, there's not much about them playing favourites.



MoHasanie said:
Congrats. What did you win?

Once we have proof, he'll win 1 month of sig saying that he was right.



MoHasanie said:
Congrats. What did you win?

Apparently nothing, as with 8 million sold we still need proof that Sony didn't ship 3 million more.

EDIT: Actually I won something, as I'm laughing really hard, that's so ridiculous.



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10 years greatest game event!

bets: [peak year] [+], [1], [2], [3], [4]

Mnementh said:
MoHasanie said:
Congrats. What did you win?

Apparently nothing, as with 8 million sold we still need proof that Sony didn't ship 3 million more.

EDIT: Actually I won something, as I'm laughing really hard, that's so ridiculous.


Ok fine, you won. What do you want me to put in my sig?