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pokoko said:

You're crazy.

I don't forget because I couldn't afford to buy games and got almost everything I played from my local video rental store.  Unfortunately, it was run by a middle aged lady who knew nothing about games, so she just ordered stluff like 3 Ninjas: Kick Back and Demolition Man because the movies were popular.  Because of this, I didn't even KNOW the SNES had RPGs until after I'd pretty much given up on gaming and stumbled on Final Fantasy 6 by accident.

Still, yeah, some of those games were pretty awesome in an unintential way.  

Haha, I was in much the same boat except that I could only talk my parents into renting me a game maybe once a month. But my grandmother was a soft touch, so I did most of my renting when I stayed at her house. She lived in a podunk little ass town where the Take Two Video smelled exactly like a barn. Fortunately, the people who ran it either knew what was what or (as I kind of suspect was the case) were so clueless that they accidentally stocked a lot of good games along with the usual movie tie-in shit. In any event, they had a Samurai Shodown machine!



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who agrees if this game sold 500K units in US this thread would only be up to 20 posts?

what happened to all those people who don't own a Wii U wanting the game? Guess they didn't want it bad enough to play it.



 

 

Having her in Smash would have helped.

Because that would basically be free advertisement. And NO that would not turn smash into an 18+/21+/rated R title. I mean is PSASBR a title that is for adults only? Nope. And Bayo 2 is 16+/rated T anyways.



That 135k includes digital, no? And we have it at 305k or so in the US with physical copies alone, this could be up to 200k overtracked in the US, that's about 1/3 of the global ltd numbers we have showing for physical sales.



Mummelmann said:
That 135k includes digital, no? And we have it at 305k or so in the US with physical copies alone, this could be up to 200k overtracked in the US, that's about 1/3 of the global ltd numbers we have showing for physical sales.

It's retail only but it is sub 135k



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Cobretti2 said:
who agrees if this game sold 500K units in US this thread would only be up to 20 posts?

what happened to all those people who don't own a Wii U wanting the game? Guess they didn't want it bad enough to play it.

As far as I could tell those people were mad because they didn't want to buy a Wii U for Bayonetta 2, so I guess what happened is they didn't buy a Wii U or Bayonetta 2.



Guys it's time to accept it... Bayonetta 2 sold under 135K LTD in the US, overtracked by 180K by VGChartz.

 

generic-user-1 said:
badgenome said:
generic-user-1 said:
i dont get this npd tracking holy grail thingy, they could be even more of than ioi for some games.
they dont track every sale, they use a lot of math to get from sample numbers to npd numbers.

Let me know when console makers send out press releases in response to VGChartz updates.


that doesnt mean the numbers of npd are better... nobody i taking iois numbers because just he knows how he got the sample, we know the sampling method for npd. but that doesnt mean that they have the right numbers, they dont track all sales, they use math just like ioi(i realy hope he isnt just guessing). if ioi has a better sample his numbers could be better(a bigger sample doesnt mean a better sample, and we know that npd has to use alot of math to get the sample into shape) im still looking for the right thread for this discussion, link?

Well, the NPD numbers are far better than VGC's. The sad thing is  that the data is private since 2011, so we actually get all the numbers from leakers from then... Ah and also, NPD tracks dozen of thousands retails shops, that accounts for 95%+ nowadays, from a sample that big, it's very accurate to have the real 100% data. And I doubt VGC gets even tracks more than 1%... Hence VGChartz always update to NPD numbers when they are too much off from the real numbers. It doesn't mean that VGC's data is bad, it's just less accurate, but we get it on the weekly basis which is better.

Rogerioandrade said:
qwertyDANIELqwerty said:
What the...? Guys, it sold more than 3000,000 in the US. Are you guys stupid?

Yep. That seems to be just a random guess by a random NeoGaf user.

creamsugar is the main leaker on GAF since years, it's not a guess, it's real.

Rogerioandrade said:
Goodnightmoon said:
So there´s no proof at all of Bayo2 being overtracked?


Actually... no.

All that we have are just speculative information. We will only be sure when Nintendo publishes its next financial reports.

Yes it is overtracked... it is a proof.

If you consider THIS a rumor, then consider all the USA sales data informations we got since 2011 a rumor... which is non sense. It's real, accept it.

Rogerioandrade said:
 

Duh? This?

Other 2014 new games, no bundle, with special edition.

Yoshi > 400k
Friends ~ 400k
Kirby: > 360k
BD > 350k
FL: 142k
Golf: 102k
PVP: 73k
Sonic 3DS: 73k
DKC: > 440k
Musou ~ 370k
B2 < 135k
Sonic WiiU: 68k

This seems too random to be legit.  Which game is supposed to be "Friends" ?  "tomodachi collection" ? Why would they use the japanese name?

I still prefer wait for official numbers before any arguing. Internet videogame forums are always full of guessings. 


1. You will never get Nintendo's numbers for most of these games because they don't sell well.

2. that data is still Official, it is just private and get leaked... it's really expensive and therefore dangerous to leak, so creamsugar as other leakers hide himself with cryptic messages, nothing 'random here'.



Prediction: End of 2015 Hardware sales (as of January 20, 2015)

Wii U: 12.1M | XBO: 19.8M | PS4: 36.0M | 3DS: 58.5M | PSV: 11.7M

generic-user-1 said:
i dont get this npd tracking holy grail thingy, they could be even more of than ioi for some games.
they dont track every sale, they use a lot of math to get from sample numbers to npd numbers.


They get sales data from retailers that in total have 90% marketshare in the US, and use math to extrapolate the last 10. Arguing agaisnt NPD is just silly.



Cobretti2 said:
who agrees if this game sold 500K units in US this thread would only be up to 20 posts?

what happened to all those people who don't own a Wii U wanting the game? Guess they didn't want it bad enough to play it.

"What's with all you people not buying a system to play one game?" Hope you realize how silly that sounds.



Why should I believe some neoF@G, help me out here

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