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People need to remember that these multi-billion dollar corporations are in business to make money. That is their main goal. That isn't to say there aren't those within the corporation who have other motivations though. I think Bill Gates and Steve Balmer saw the Xbox project as a natural business move and felt Microsoft should be moving into the living room. That's where all the money. That's where Sony was heading. I think some of Xbox's original creators such as Seamus Blackley, J Allard, and Ed Fries were probably more passionate about creating the best video game console they could.

Herein lies the main problem I've always had with Microsoft. They aren't really passionate creators. That's not part of their corporate identity. Dominating markets is what they're all about. This was the mistake Microsoft made when they bought Rare. They thought that by buying Rare, they would have their own mini Nintendo. But you can't make your own Nintendo. They never did, nor could they ever understand the type of relationship that Nintendo and Rare had.

Nintendo on the other hand has a completely different culture. While just like other companies, they sought to make as much money as possible. However, whereas Microsoft's culture was about market domination, Nintendo's culture became more about creating passionate products. Hiroshi Yamauchi was probably the first to take people within Nintendo who had backgrounds in art and put them in charge of projects. He realized that the creative process and the passion to create is the most important part of product development. Again, Nintendo is a corporation like everyone else. While they do have a passion for the product, it's also no surprise that we see many sequels and spinoffs with their IP's.



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Seece said:
bigjon said:
MS never has or never will care about gamers. They always quit supporting their old console 12-24 months prior to the next consoles release, and as soon as they thought they had a stranglehold on the console market they announced the terrible "pre-180" policies. If it were not for Sony's strong showing XB1 fans would be dealing with that BS right now. It weird this GEN, even the biggest MS fanboy has to be gratefull to Sony this GEN.

If MS ever gets in a dominent position again expect more anti consumer policies to follow shortly after.

That's funny. What does Sony have for PS3 in 2015 that matches Forza Horizon 2, Titanfall, Fable Anniversary and Max Curse of Brotherhood?


Don't forget Tomb Raider ;)



Everyone in the gaming business is there for money. If pleasing gamers helps them make more money then they'll do that.



Does anyone that requires a fee to play online?

Why not just offer "player hosted servers" for those that dont want to pay a fee?
Or let me play with my friends for free and play with strangers/tournaments etc with fee?



bigjon said:
MS never has or never will care about gamers. They always quit supporting their old console 12-24 months prior to the next consoles release, and as soon as they thought they had a stranglehold on the console market they announced the terrible "pre-180" policies. If it were not for Sony's strong showing XB1 fans would be dealing with that BS right now. It weird this GEN, even the biggest MS fanboy has to be gratefull to Sony this GEN.

If MS ever gets in a dominent position again expect more anti consumer policies to follow shortly after.

Awesome man, youre posting from some alternate reality. Because this is 2014. So for you to be right, 2011 or 2012 wohld have been the last time MS supported the 360. Yet in 2014 alone they have provided more than a few great titles, and have stuff coming in 2015 as well.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
bigjon said:
MS never has or never will care about gamers. They always quit supporting their old console 12-24 months prior to the next consoles release, and as soon as they thought they had a stranglehold on the console market they announced the terrible "pre-180" policies. If it were not for Sony's strong showing XB1 fans would be dealing with that BS right now. It weird this GEN, even the biggest MS fanboy has to be gratefull to Sony this GEN.

If MS ever gets in a dominent position again expect more anti consumer policies to follow shortly after.

Awesome man, youre posting from some alternate reality. Because this is 2014. So for you to be right, 2011 or 2012 wohld have been the last time MS supported the 360. Yet in 2014 alone they have provided more than a few great titles, and have stuff coming in 2015 as well.


The  initiative from Ms to follow sonys ten year plan is the only reason  the 360 is being supported. It was during Shane kims time as the head of xbox. If it wasn't for him following Sony the Xbox generations would've ended much sooner. The whole point of their existence  is to be a thorn in Sony's side until they stop each generational  strand of production . 



plu_To said:
I would have thought MS attitude pre launch of Xbox One said a whole lot about what they think of gamers.

It reinforced what I've always felt about them, certainly. Like the man behind the proverbial curtain was exposed to the general public, and strangely it wasn't an accident but a huge miscalculation and misread of the audience.



On reveal, they had some seriously fucked up intentions, in my opinion. They appear to have learned from their errors and got some new faces to get some credibility back. Other than that, business as usual.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:

The  initiative from Ms to follow sonys ten year plan is the only reason  the 360 is being supported. It was during Shane kims time as the head of xbox. If it wasn't for him following Sony the Xbox generations would've ended much sooner. The whole point of their existence  is to be a thorn in Sony's side until they stop each generational  strand of production . 

1. I have corrected you on this before, Sony did not invent any "10 year plan". Other consoles have had support for 10 years before Sony did it (if Sony in fact has ever done it, idk).

2. Even if you were correct here (you aren't), all your post is saying is basically that I am 100% right, MS is in fact still supporting the 360. So thanks!



They're intention is to make a lot of money just like any other company.
The way they're trying to do it is something I'm not a fan of. I don't like the Windows 8 interface. I don't want it on a console. I don't like Microsoft having to use DDR3 memory just so I can run Windows apps on my console. There really aren't any good Windows apps out there.