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Munkeh111 on 21 November 2014
Kerotan said:
Munkeh111 said:

Because there's much more money to be made in mobile and tablet gaming, they'd stop focusing on the PS4

so what they just gonna put all those AAA devs making games like TLOU that sell 10M copies most at a good price and GT which se;;s 10M with a small team behind it making crappy mobile games? 

The people making the ost from mobile games are the one hit wonders like flappbird, candy crush and minecraft. Do you see MS going all mobile look for this superior dough? No. SO if google apple or amazon bought playstation they'd be nuts to not keep going the way sony is. In a few years they will have 20M people paying 50$ a year to just play the thing online. Then they have the cable deal. These companies would be idiots to just go mobile which they already are. 

Like you expect apple to make a playstation mobile when they already make a shit load of money on their iphones from game royalties. I don't agree with you at all. 

Yes, becase they just want to push their own products and services. The definitely wouldn't be doing boxed games, though maybe they'd keep $20 games

The problem is, there are maybe 10 franchises per year that can sell 10m copies. Maybe.

I just don't think they'd be interested in the "hardcore" gaming market



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Kerotan on 21 November 2014
Mr Khan said:
Kerotan said:
Mr Khan said:
You can't just go in and buy Japanese companies, though. Hostile takeovers are next to unheard-of, especially if it's a high profile company. As much as Shinzo Abe is trying to "liberalize" the corporate structure, Japan will protect its own.

So where does that leave Sony? Does it mean they get bailed out if they need it and Playstation will never die no matter how bad SOny does?


"Never" is too strong a word, those reforms will come one day or another, just that the math presented earlier in the thread (if Sony's valuation drops to 10 billion or less) doesn't just mean someone can walk along and drop a big chunk of change, because Japan will have government pensions (or something like it) buy the stock first.

obviously I hope Sony the best but I wouldn't mind seeing a true powerhouse like Samsung, Apple, Google or Amazon take on the PS brand. Sony is ruling the roost already but the possibilities with someone with such pockets are endless. 



Normchacho on 21 November 2014

What? Sony had a loss last quarter due to a good will loss from it's mobile division. Really no reason to suspect Sony won't begin improving from here on out.



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Kerotan on 21 November 2014
Munkeh111 said:
Kerotan said:
Munkeh111 said:

Because there's much more money to be made in mobile and tablet gaming, they'd stop focusing on the PS4

so what they just gonna put all those AAA devs making games like TLOU that sell 10M copies most at a good price and GT which se;;s 10M with a small team behind it making crappy mobile games? 

The people making the ost from mobile games are the one hit wonders like flappbird, candy crush and minecraft. Do you see MS going all mobile look for this superior dough? No. SO if google apple or amazon bought playstation they'd be nuts to not keep going the way sony is. In a few years they will have 20M people paying 50$ a year to just play the thing online. Then they have the cable deal. These companies would be idiots to just go mobile which they already are. 

Like you expect apple to make a playstation mobile when they already make a shit load of money on their iphones from game royalties. I don't agree with you at all. 

Yes, becase they just want to push their own products and services. The definitely wouldn't be doing boxed games, though maybe they'd keep $20 games

The problem is, there are maybe 10 franchises per year that can sell 10m copies. Maybe.

I just don't think they'd be interested in the "hardcore" gaming market

People valued the Xbox brand at over 10 billion. That must put the playstation brand currently over 20BN. You think a company would spend that money and then change playstation from what brings in the mega dough? Yes they will surely mix features of the playstation with their mobile divisions but that would be additions and not compromises. 



Ljink96 on 21 November 2014

The vita and 4 aren't doing that great there. And fyi, Nintendo has 9 Billion. The 4 may be doing well but it all comes down to how much money it is making to help the company stay afloat.



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Teeqoz on 21 November 2014
Ka-pi96 said:
Sleepyprince said:

- Sony have no more cash. But really, they are even at loss with -64 million dollars. For a small comparison they had 4 BILLION past year. Just for comparison, Microsoft have 7000 billion in free cash, Apple 1000 billion, Google 4000 billion, Nintendo something like 3 Billion (not very reliable information on it)

Just re-reading this...

You know that you are saying Microsoft have 7 TRILLION in cash there right? And Apple 1 TRILLION, Google 4 TRILLION.

I know they have plenty of cash, but I don't for a second believe it's that much

I found this sentence to be quite ironic after reading that:

Some of you may not know me but I'm quite knowledgable in economic analysis

Because no offence, you obviously don't know a lot about the subject, nevermind the fact that you say that the value of the company is down 10 billion in a year, which is a straight out lie. It's at a 52 week high, and is up ~15% compared to the same period a year ago.



AZWification on 21 November 2014

Right now? I thought Sony was always in big trouble!



                
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Teeqoz on 21 November 2014
BMaker11 said:

None of these companyies have trillions of dollars. There's only like $60-70 trillion in all of the world (lol I remember when the RIAA tried to sue people for more money than actually existed in the world) and that includes all physical money, checking and savings accounts, CDs, stocks etc. You think MS has 10% of the world's money?

I'm gonna chalk this up to a typo. A hilariously bad typo. Because even if you take off a 0, Micorosft still doesn't have 700B and Google doesn't have 400B (although Apple does have over 100B)


At the bolded part. Either the 60-70 trillion figure is wrong, or the second part is wrong. I know this because the country Norway (in which I live) has a "hedgefund" with 1 trillion in it, and that fund owns 1% of all the world's stocks. 1*100= 100, so that's 100 trillions only in stocks in the world.



DrDoomz on 21 November 2014

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vivster on 21 November 2014

Pretty sure Apple has at least 1000 trillion in cash.



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