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Jazz2K on 18 October 2014

Because they don't care? And neither does their user base. Sony has always been bragging about this and that long before it happens and people are willing to wait and/or just appologize for them so why the rush.

A good example is the Drive Club situation. It was delayed, people can't have the free version promised, they don't have the weather expansion yet and they have all these server problems but are people complaining? Not much, most just appologize for Sony.

I think it's possible to be a fan of a company but still call them for their mistakes. People act like if you are not satisfied with a service provided by a company it automaticaly means you're a faboy of other consoles... you can voice yourselves with your wallet you know that.



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FIT_Gamer on 18 October 2014

Personally i don't do anything outside of gaming on my consoles so it's finished enough for me.



MasterVG71782 on 18 October 2014
JazzB1987 said:
mornelithe said:
Probably because they have a list of priorities, and everything you've mentioned is lower down on the list. That's my guess.


What are their priorities then?

Games? I dont see any.
Online? Way to shitty for it to require a fee.
Vita? Sony does not even know what this is.


TBH Nintendo has kind of an excuse to not have so many games. Because they need to develop for 2 systems. Sony on the other hand....
What exactly is sony doing?

There aren't too many consoles that have had a lot of "AAA" titles released in their first year and I doubt the PS4 and One will be any different. The plethora of games usually don't start coming out until the second or so year of the system's release and with games like Uncharted 4 (possibly), Bloodborne and I'm sure a few others not announced, there are and will be games to play. Just because a game is on another system doesn't mean there aren't games to play.

"Why play a game on one system when you can get it for another!?!?!" Well, just because it's a multiplatform title doesn't mean it's any less important if you play it on the PS4. For example, Shadow of Mordor is a great game, whether you play it on the One, the PS4 or the PC.



GTAexpert on 18 October 2014
Jazz2K said:
Because they don't care? And neither does their user base. Sony has always been bragging about this and that long before it happens and people are willing to wait and/or just appologize for them so why the rush.

A good example is the Drive Club situation. It was delayed, people can't have the free version promised, they don't have the weather expansion yet and they have all these server problems but are people complaining? Not much, most just appologize for Sony.

I think it's possible to be a fan of a company but still call them for their mistakes. People act like if you are not satisfied with a service provided by a company it automaticaly means you're a faboy of other consoles... you can voice yourselves with your wallet you know that.

All Driveclub customers are complaining about the poor servers. It has very good gameplay and experience which makes it even harder for us to resist the online club aspect of the game. I bought Driveclub mostly for the online portion, but currently I am stuck with the single player. Its still awesome, but it would be much more awesome online. So you're wrong when you say that we don't complain to Sony about such things, we do.

As for the PS+ version, its coming, but of course they first need to stabilise servers for those who have already bought the game like me. The weather patch was supposed to come out later anyway, all of us knew about that.



enditall727 on 18 October 2014
SvennoJ said:
enditall727 said:
I got Driveclub at launch and was able to get a couple online races in before the servers got shut down. I avoided playing all together because I didn't want to do anything while not being in a club yet. I would check frequently to see if the servers were back up but they wern't for a couple of days. So I was like "fuck it!" and decided to play some single player instead but I kept getting kicked off.

You know like how in Destiny it will kick you off of the game and send you back to orbit if something happened to your connection? Yea the same was happening to me in Driveclub as if it was an Online only game or someshit. So I tried again like the next day to see if the servers were back up and they finally were(this was yesterday) so I immediately joined a club and tried a single player race and was able to play. I then tried to play another multiplayer race but it kept saying that I couldn't because something would happen with the connection. Also, the challenges mode was down despite the servers being back up yesterday.

As I was playing the single player, I was thinking " where is that weather that I was seeing in those video?"

We already had to wait an extra year for the game to release and now that it's here.. we still have to wait for the full game to release in a damn patch.

Before I tried Driveclub yesterday I noticed that there was a patch available so I installed it before playing. I dont know if that was supposed to be the weather patch but I just know that I havn't seen it yet in the couple races I've played

All in all, this whole Driveclub situation was a complete #Fail!

This online shit IS NOT the future of gaming

Odd. I have been playing single player since launch and am lvl 49 currently, haven't had any problems with connection loss affecting single player. Just that red banner saying connection lost most of the time. Clubs have been working since last Monday, dynamic face offs in races since Thursday, multiplayer races work if you're patient. I'm not so I play single player mostly. 15 sec loading time vs wait to join lobby, wait for player connections, wait for car selection, wait for race start.

Sadly last night it became less stable again as the weekend started. Club leaderboards disappeared again, single player leaderboards still work but are slow to update. (Club) Challenges are still disabled, the server code is a mess.

Weather was never promised for launch, it's coming in a free content patch with another location, only promiss is before years end. More like a reason to get back to it later than wait for it.

Sadly this online shit is nothing new. Instead of peddling game engines, maybe some robust standardized online engine would help.

Idk what the hell was going on with the single player. I tried it like 3 times and the 3rd time i sent in a report. I guess the system noticed the problem and asked me if i wanted to inform Evolution on what happened. It recorded me getting kicked off and i explained what happened in like 2 or 3 sentences and sent it to them. The next day is when i got on the PS4 and seen the patch.

 

To be fair, i dont have the greatest connectiin because even my tablet and 360 lose connection sometimes.

 

Ive definitely noticed it with Destiny though. I have PVZ Garden Warfare and Destiny but i got kicked off Destiny a lot more times than PVZ. Its like the slightested hitch in your connection will get you sent back to orbit on Destiny lol. Lucky it didn't happen enough to really kill the game. I just know that an always online environment is NOT where gaming should EVER go.

 

Driveclub probably did work those couple of days i didn't play it. Maybe i just got unlucky because everytime i got on it, the challenges and those other options would be dark aswell as mutiplayer. lt would cut on really quick but then cut off after a few seconds but i never really stayed on it long enough to see if the servers would fully cut back on. I would just get on for a quick second to see if the my club and challenges options were darkened out and if they were, i would just cut the game off and eventually try again the next day.



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Mystro-Sama on 18 October 2014

... People use Hulu? ._.



Jazz2K on 18 October 2014
GTAexpert said:
Jazz2K said:
Because they don't care? And neither does their user base. Sony has always been bragging about this and that long before it happens and people are willing to wait and/or just appologize for them so why the rush.

A good example is the Drive Club situation. It was delayed, people can't have the free version promised, they don't have the weather expansion yet and they have all these server problems but are people complaining? Not much, most just appologize for Sony.

I think it's possible to be a fan of a company but still call them for their mistakes. People act like if you are not satisfied with a service provided by a company it automaticaly means you're a faboy of other consoles... you can voice yourselves with your wallet you know that.

All Driveclub customers are complaining about the poor servers. It has very good gameplay and experience which makes it even harder for us to resist the online club aspect of the game. I bought Driveclub mostly for the online portion, but currently I am stuck with the single player. Its still awesome, but it would be much more awesome online. So you're wrong when you say that we don't complain to Sony about such things, we do.

As for the PS+ version, its coming, but of course they first need to stabilise servers for those who have already bought the game like me. The weather patch was supposed to come out later anyway, all of us knew about that.

I feel for you man. Online heavy games should have a different way of making money other than the entry price. This way, they would hurry their asses to provide more stability to keep their customers happy. I don't know what though but if mmos had these problems people would just stop paying for the monthly subscription. But we don't want monthly subs either.



QUAKECore89 on 18 October 2014
kowenicki said:
mornelithe said:
Probably because they have a list of priorities, and everything you've mentioned is lower down on the list. That's my guess.


Features shown and promoted before launch are lower down the priortiy list?  Suspend and resume was mentioned at the reveal, thats over 1 1/2 years ago.

 

 

Oh yeah, that stuff. I forgot about it damn, what does it do again?



QUAKECore89 on 18 October 2014

I have no idea, they're finding out something.

I remember the worst thing is day one update to function reading disc, omg, i couldn't believe it. Imagine somebody don't have internet.



DeadBigfoot21 on 18 October 2014

Because you can always update software and not hardware. Sony likes to see what Microsoft does software wise so they can also use it on their console. Ex: party chat, achievements plus other small things. Plus hate should be coming my way. But its just the truth.