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Why do you hate digital games?

Can't sell them 66 15.24%
 
HDD space is too limited 19 4.39%
 
I like a physical collection 171 39.49%
 
The downloads may become ... 69 15.94%
 
Other 15 3.46%
 
I don't really mind digital games 41 9.47%
 
DIGITAL GAME MASTER RACE 45 10.39%
 
Total:426

I love digital games. FOR smaller, indie games. I refuse to waste the time and take up the system space to download a retail game that I'd rather have on disc anyway. Just won't do it. It's nice for some people to have the option, I suppose, but for me, I'm old school, and I want my retail games to be.....you know....retail. IE physical copies of the game that you can hold, look at, store on your shelf, etc.

But I love small indie titles. I'm glad that it's a growing, thriving market, especially because it has provided me with a mass-revival in more retro/classic 8/16bit style gaming, or just 2D gaming in general, that I was seriously missing in the PS1/N64 and PS2/GC generations.



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I don't mind digital games as long as they are significantly cheaper then a physical copy of the same game same rule applies to used games.



I really don't have a preference. If I'm too lazy to drive to Gamestop or wait for Amazon to deliver a game then I'll just purchase digitally. Doesn't matter to me.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Nicklesbe said:
VanceIX said:
Nicklesbe said:

Actually if you knew anything you'd know this has actually happened a lot to itunes google ect.. try looking up all the time itunes has been hacked.You are lying through your ars if you expect anyone to believe that nonsense. I doubt you've been buying digital for over a decade. 5-8 tops and I know in that time you've experienced that kind of problem especially all the times PSN or XBL or even steam servers have been down. So you are just plain being dishonest and it's not a good look on you. You can lie to yourself all you want but don't piss on my shoes and tell me its raining because i don't buy it and you should know better than to expect anyone to believe that level of BS.

Dude...calm down for one. You being vulgar and rude isn't helping your case.

Second, I have been purchasing digital content on places like Steam and iTunes since they were released. I purchased games for my friends on Steam in 2004 that are still there.

Third, yes, things get hacked. People generally don't lose content due to hacks. Link me one instance where a person's account gets all its games removed due to a company being hacked. Credit card info? Sure. email addresses? Yeah. Most hackers don't care about what games are linked to an account, and even if they did, it would be easy to recover the content.

I'm perfectly calm and I assure you I am not being rude or vulger, I am being honest there is a distinction. What's rude is lying to my face and treating me like I'm an idiot. 2004 is not "over a decade" it is just under a decade. Thanks for finally being honest and proving me right. http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/Support/ct-p/10023 check around 2011 and early 2012. Lots of instances. http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/default.aspx Check around 2009-2010 I believe that's when the peak was it happened a lot. https://support.steampowered.com/ check any time steam accounts get hijacked all the time. Yeah it would be possible to recover, that is if the data isnn't lost forever like it was with ME DLC and it would require a lot of hassle. Something you wilfully ignore is the fact is that we have consumer rights that protect us from having to deal with that hassle and trouble. Rights that are lost with digital only. 

January 2004 is over a decade. Febraury 2004 is over a decade. March 2004 is over a decade. April 2004 is over a decade. May 2004 is over a decade.

Grow up.

If a person steals an account, how are your rights being violated, exactly? A person can just as easily, if not more easily, swipe some games or rob your house if they wished. Would you cry about your rights being violated and blame the company that made the games then, or would you blame the robber?

If you have a strong password and aren't an idiot, your account is perfectly safe with most of everything encrypted these days. If a mass-scale breach does happen (and they do, don't get me wrong), it is very unlikely that your games go missing from your digital library, as the company would find out and take steps against it in cases of massive hacks. In individual cases where it may be a problem, you just have to make sure you have a good password, just like how you would make sure you lock your door at night.

No one is taking your rights, you are way over-reacting. According to the EULA, you don't own the game anyway, just the disc that the game is on. Are your rights being violated there? Just like that, I don't own my digital copy, just the hard disk that the game is on. I also have the game linked to an account so I can make copies on another system is I so wish. I won't lose any downloaded games I have downloaded until I delete them, just like how you won't lose any physical media until you get rid of it.



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endimion said:
Pretty sure it's a myth among core gamer like vinyl records for music lovers... DD has never been so accepted than it is today.... By the mainstream but you'll still have the vocal few purist than want to go vintage style :)


Except people use vinyl because the quality is leagues above that of digital.



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DevilRising said:
I love digital games. FOR smaller, indie games. I refuse to waste the time and take up the system space to download a retail game that I'd rather have on disc anyway. Just won't do it. It's nice for some people to have the option, I suppose, but for me, I'm old school, and I want my retail games to be.....you know....retail. IE physical copies of the game that you can hold, look at, store on your shelf, etc.

But I love small indie titles. I'm glad that it's a growing, thriving market, especially because it has provided me with a mass-revival in more retro/classic 8/16bit style gaming, or just 2D gaming in general, that I was seriously missing in the PS1/N64 and PS2/GC generations.

A serious question, not trying to argue or anything- how do you feel about mandatory full game installations on the PS4/Xbox One for most games, whether physical or digital?



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VanceIX said:
Nicklesbe said:
VanceIX said:

Dude...calm down for one. You being vulgar and rude isn't helping your case.

Second, I have been purchasing digital content on places like Steam and iTunes since they were released. I purchased games for my friends on Steam in 2004 that are still there.

Third, yes, things get hacked. People generally don't lose content due to hacks. Link me one instance where a person's account gets all its games removed due to a company being hacked. Credit card info? Sure. email addresses? Yeah. Most hackers don't care about what games are linked to an account, and even if they did, it would be easy to recover the content.

I'm perfectly calm and I assure you I am not being rude or vulger, I am being honest there is a distinction. What's rude is lying to my face and treating me like I'm an idiot. 2004 is not "over a decade" it is just under a decade. Thanks for finally being honest and proving me right. http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/Support/ct-p/10023 check around 2011 and early 2012. Lots of instances. http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/default.aspx Check around 2009-2010 I believe that's when the peak was it happened a lot. https://support.steampowered.com/ check any time steam accounts get hijacked all the time. Yeah it would be possible to recover, that is if the data isnn't lost forever like it was with ME DLC and it would require a lot of hassle. Something you wilfully ignore is the fact is that we have consumer rights that protect us from having to deal with that hassle and trouble. Rights that are lost with digital only. 

January 2004 is over a decade. Febraury 2004 is over a decade. March 2004 is over a decade. April 2004 is over a decade. May 2004 is over a decade.

Grow up.

If a person steals an account, how are your rights being violated, exactly? A person can just as easily, if not more easily, swipe some games or rob your house if they wished. Would you cry about your rights being violated and blame the company that made the games then, or would you blame the robber?

If you have a strong password and aren't an idiot, your account is perfectly safe with most of everything encrypted these days. If a mass-scale breach does happen (and they do, don't get me wrong), it is very unlikely that your games go missing from your digital library, as the company would find out and take steps against it in cases of massive hacks. In individual cases where it may be a problem, you just have to make sure you have a good password, just like how you would make sure you lock your door at night.

No one is taking your rights, you are way over-reacting. According to the EULA, you don't own the game anyway, just the disc that the game is on. Are your rights being violated there? Just like that, I don't own my digital copy, just the hard disk that the game is on. I also have the game linked to an account so I can make copies on another system is I so wish. I won't lose any downloaded games I have downloaded until I delete them, just like how you won't lose any physical media until you get rid of it.

You said over a decade and guess what you probably didn't start in any of those months, even if ya did you said over a decade which means it's still a lie, it doesn't matter if it's 10.99% its still at most one decade and not over untill 2015. It also doesn't change the fact that you lied about never having any network problems in that time. Now you are acting like a child, and you want to tell me to grow up? Your rights are violated because you no longer have the power to protect your own property. You also have the right to resell any property you purchase. What about that do you not understand? You have the right to protect your property anyway you see fit. They take that right away by denying you the ability to take that property. Instead they take it and put where ever they want and force you to trust that they will protect it and they take away your right to sell it and make a profit off it if you choose.

Just stop dude seriously you know you are so in the wrong here and you are expressing so much blind ignorance that at this point it comes off as intentional and pure trolling. People on XBL had strong passwords but due to an exploit their passwords were completely bypassed. Sony had encription and people had strong passwords it didn't stop people from hacking into the network. You have to be smarter than this, seriously. 



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Nicklesbe said:
VanceIX said:
Nicklesbe said:

I'm perfectly calm and I assure you I am not being rude or vulger, I am being honest there is a distinction. What's rude is lying to my face and treating me like I'm an idiot. 2004 is not "over a decade" it is just under a decade. Thanks for finally being honest and proving me right. http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/Support/ct-p/10023 check around 2011 and early 2012. Lots of instances. http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/default.aspx Check around 2009-2010 I believe that's when the peak was it happened a lot. https://support.steampowered.com/ check any time steam accounts get hijacked all the time. Yeah it would be possible to recover, that is if the data isnn't lost forever like it was with ME DLC and it would require a lot of hassle. Something you wilfully ignore is the fact is that we have consumer rights that protect us from having to deal with that hassle and trouble. Rights that are lost with digital only. 

January 2004 is over a decade. Febraury 2004 is over a decade. March 2004 is over a decade. April 2004 is over a decade. May 2004 is over a decade.

Grow up.

If a person steals an account, how are your rights being violated, exactly? A person can just as easily, if not more easily, swipe some games or rob your house if they wished. Would you cry about your rights being violated and blame the company that made the games then, or would you blame the robber?

If you have a strong password and aren't an idiot, your account is perfectly safe with most of everything encrypted these days. If a mass-scale breach does happen (and they do, don't get me wrong), it is very unlikely that your games go missing from your digital library, as the company would find out and take steps against it in cases of massive hacks. In individual cases where it may be a problem, you just have to make sure you have a good password, just like how you would make sure you lock your door at night.

No one is taking your rights, you are way over-reacting. According to the EULA, you don't own the game anyway, just the disc that the game is on. Are your rights being violated there? Just like that, I don't own my digital copy, just the hard disk that the game is on. I also have the game linked to an account so I can make copies on another system is I so wish. I won't lose any downloaded games I have downloaded until I delete them, just like how you won't lose any physical media until you get rid of it.

You said over a decade and guess what you probably didn't start in any of those months, even if ya did you said over a decade which means it's still a lie, it doesn't matter if it's 10.99% its still at most one decade and not over untill 2015. It also doesn't change the fact that you lied about never having any network problems in that time. Now you are acting like a child, and you want to tell me to grow up? Your rights are violated because you no longer have the power to protect your own property. You also have the right to resell any property you purchase. What about that do you not understand? You have the right to protect your property anyway you see fit. They take that right away by denying you the ability to take that property. Instead they take it and put where ever they want and force you to trust that they will protect it and they take away your right to sell it and make a profit off it if you choose.

Just stop dude seriously you know you are so in the wrong here and you are expressing so much blind ignorance that at this point it comes off as intentional and pure trolling. People on XBL had strong passwords but due to an exploit their passwords were completely bypassed. Sony had encription and people had strong passwords it didn't stop people from hacking into the network. You have to be smarter than this, seriously. 

OK my turn

 

I DID USE DIGITAL DOWNLOAD FOR GAMES FOR WAY OVER A DECADE.... I can even tell you witch game it was called for the first one the 4th coming and released in 1999-2000.... beside that I have been using DD for games ever since cracking got invented and internet got main stream.... which is way more than a decade...

 

but beside that I have been gaming personnaly for over 2 decades and I have had way more issues with physical than I ever did with DD... so yeah even if what you say is a probability we can't honnestly dismiss... I can guaranty you the chances of losing, damaging or geting stolen of a physical disc is (IN MY CASE AT LEAST) way higher than the chance of losing my digital dowload or getting hacked... I have redundency of all my data and I think all my accounts are well protected....
yeah sure steam, apple, MS etc can be hacked but not only it doesn't really concern me since I have everything saved localy, but even if it would happen on a so major scale or regular basis that the probability of it being a higher concern than the risk probability on physical. chances are those company have backs strong enough to handle any major issue financially... so even in the most extreme of cases I'm still dead convince by experience that I have absolutely no reason to be more worried about loosing my DD than my physical disc.... especially since CD rom, DVD rom, BR rom is probably the shittiest storing solution ever invented in terms of durability and reliability...
and to be completely fare I couldn't care less about games a decade old... in any case if those games are still relevant today you can find them, I was a big fan of command and conquer back then I still have the box somewhere at my parents home but I still bought the DD version because it is 10 times more convenient.... not even sure it would work properly on win 7/8 and if I want to play it in an other decade.... and steam is dead or whatever ... well then I'll pay a buck or 10 then to whome ever sells it at that point if I really want to play such a crappy game by then over nostalgia... instead of having to store with very little guarantee, discs that take space, collect dust and get so easily damaged...

 

simple beside collecting value and/or resell needs for people that don't want to keep their games, are on a budget or a mix of both, current format of physical disc have absolutely nothing on digital.... since I don't care about both, I don't collect, and by the time I'm done with a game, usually it has less resale value than the gas it's gonna cost me to go to the store to sell it..... DD is the way to go for me no doubt...

 

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Less value for the money.
99% of the time more expensive than the physical game. (this only changes when the games are like 5 bucks long after they released)
You cannot really collect digital stuff.
You cannot sell digital stuff in case you want to.
Unavailable if servers down and lost forever if service closes.
You cannot showcase your library to friends (here look at my steam list doesnt do it)
There is not really something that differenciates your digital game from the game of someone who pirated it.


I have 500+ games on steam but I wait for games to hit 7.5 or 5 bucks before I buy them. Digital is not worth more imho.



endimion said:

OK my turn

 

I DID USE DIGITAL DOWNLOAD FOR GAMES FOR WAY OVER A DECADE.... I can even tell you witch game it was called for the first one the 4th coming and released in 1999-2000.... beside that I have been using DD for games ever since cracking got invented and internet got main stream.... which is way more than a decade...

 

but beside that I have been gaming personnaly for over 2 decades and I have had way more issues with physical than I ever did with DD... so yeah even if what you say is a probability we can't honnestly dismiss... I can guaranty you the chances of losing, damaging or geting stolen of a physical disc is (IN MY CASE AT LEAST) way higher than the chance of losing my digital dowload or getting hacked... I have redundency of all my data and I think all my accounts are well protected....
yeah sure steam, apple, MS etc can be hacked but not only it doesn't really concern me since I have everything saved localy, but even if it would happen on a so major scale or regular basis that the probability of it being a higher concern than the risk probability on physical. chances are those company have backs strong enough to handle any major issue financially... so even in the most extreme of cases I'm still dead convince by experience that I have absolutely no reason to be more worried about loosing my DD than my physical disc.... especially since CD rom, DVD rom, BR rom is probably the shittiest storing solution ever invented in terms of durability and reliability...
and to be completely fare I couldn't care less about games a decade old... in any case if those games are still relevant today you can find them, I was a big fan of command and conquer back then I still have the box somewhere at my parents home but I still bought the DD version because it is 10 times more convenient.... not even sure it would work properly on win 7/8 and if I want to play it in an other decade.... and steam is dead or whatever ... well then I'll pay a buck or 10 then to whome ever sells it at that point if I really want to play such a crappy game by then over nostalgia... instead of having to store with very little guarantee, discs that take space, collect dust and get so easily damaged...

 

simple beside collecting value and/or resell needs for people that don't want to keep their games, are on a budget or a mix of both, current format of physical disc have absolutely nothing on digital.... since I don't care about both, I don't collect, and by the time I'm done with a game, usually it has less resale value than the gas it's gonna cost me to go to the store to sell it..... DD is the way to go for me no doubt...

 

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Ya know if ya bought the physical disk and kept it close to mint condition and held onto it for 5+ years you probably could have turned it around for a nice profit. Just because you have been irresponsible with your property in the past, and just because you don't know how to turn collections around and make a profit off them doesn't mean everyone is like you. There are plenty of people that take really good care of their collections, they are really responsible and get insurance and protect their property. They know how to turn it around and make a profit off it. It's not fair or right to take their ability to do so away just because there are people that don't know any better. If you are on a budget that's more reason to try and make a profit off of your purchases. If ya can't make a profit off it you probably shouldn't be buying it. LIke I said before the profit I've made off my game collection alone has paid for my games, my consoles, and my PC. I'm not saying Digital shouldn't exist, however it's insane to try and completely destroy physical because it will always be a profitable commodity. Take music for example, it's been digital for a long time now and has seen just as many transitions as games. Yet bands still regularly release Vinyl records. Why? Because they are a damn good commodity.  



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