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Yakuzaice said:
tbone51 said:

Could be overshipped from Q3, 3DS in japan has sold more this quarter than shipped WW for example. 2DS sells more than 3DS (at least according to nintendo during holiday!)

Do you have a link for this?  In the holiday quarter Nintendo shipped 3.22m 3DS in The Americas/Other compared to 2.11m 2DS.  This past quarter they only shipped 90k 2DS compared to 370k 3DS in those territories.  So sell through of the 2DS was very poor during the holidays, demand dropped hard this year, or some combination of the two.

 

2DS demand should naturally have dropped after Christmas sice the 2DS is supposed to be bought by parents of younger children, who shop for games ystems considerably more during the holidays.



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Yakuzaice said:
tbone51 said:

Could be overshipped from Q3, 3DS in japan has sold more this quarter than shipped WW for example. 2DS sells more than 3DS (at least according to nintendo during holiday!)

Do you have a link for this?  In the holiday quarter Nintendo shipped 3.22m 3DS in The Americas/Other compared to 2.11m 2DS.  This past quarter they only shipped 90k 2DS compared to 370k 3DS in those territories.  So sell through of the 2DS was very poor during the holidays, demand dropped hard this year, or some combination of the two.



srry i wasnt specific (well kinda), this doesn't include XL model which is by far the best seller of the 3!

Rafux said:
I said some time ago new console in 2015 and people called me crazy


They also need a new handheld. But, can they launch both in the same year?



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Rafux said:
I said some time ago new console in 2015 and people called me crazy


There`s still no hard eveidence to prove this. In addition, Nintendo recently denied that they were revealing new hardware at E3 (which is where they would reveal it), instead of giving the questionable PR line ``We have nothing to announce at this time``.



damn thats a hefty loss.



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I have no idea what VGC is doing with the 3DS number.  There were obvious issues with it at the end of last year.  The ship/sold gap in Japan was larger than the overall gap WW, and that still doesn't seem to be fixed.  Now WW sales are ~520k higher than shipments.  Even with the paltry shipment in Japan this past quarter there are still 480k in the channel there.

Even if there are only 500k in the channel in the west, we are still looking at ~1.5m overtracked.



Pavolink said:
Vinniegambini said:
Nintendo Q4 Investor Presentation + Q&A

05/07/14 / 09:00 PM EDT

So, 08:00 PM EST?

 

That said, the hardware rumor for this E3 doesn't sounds as fake after today. They need a new hadheld for 2015 and a new console for 2016.

KIlling the 3DS as early as 2015 makes little sense. It could piss off fans (which is the worst thing they could do right now), dramatically increase R&D costs for this FY, and potentially eliminate their only reliable source of profit.

KIlling the Wii U as early as 2016 might seem like the logical move to avoid incurring further losses on the flagging hardware, but the prospective console could have even worse fortunes. It would have to compete against two highly popular consoles in their peaks; PS4 and Xbox One gamers won`t jump to buy a new Nintendo console consideing their last console and going to be too busy anyway, while Nintendo fans are going to be hesitant after a console that lasted only four years and wasn`t well supported. 



Cleary397 said:
Nintendo posts 200 million loss - everyone screams doom and gloom.
Sony posts 1.3 billion loss - Ah its fine, the PS4 is doing alright.

The PS4 and their "gaming division" ARE alright, but obviously Sony isn't and that has been said dozens of times (even in this thread even though it's about Nintendo's earnings).
Nintendo only has the gaming business and they have terrible Wii sales (expected though), terrible WiiU sales and bad 3DS sales (at least from what we can see judging the shipments of this quarter).



Scizor_99 said:
Pavolink said:
Vinniegambini said:
Nintendo Q4 Investor Presentation + Q&A

05/07/14 / 09:00 PM EDT

So, 08:00 PM EST?

 

That said, the hardware rumor for this E3 doesn't sounds as fake after today. They need a new hadheld for 2015 and a new console for 2016.

KIlling the 3DS as early as 2015 makes little sense. It could piss off fans (which is the worst thing they could do right now), dramatically increase R&D costs for this FY, and potentially eliminate their only reliable source of profit.

KIlling the Wii U as early as 2016 might seem like the logical move to avoid incurring further losses on the flagging hardware, but the prospective console could have even worse fortunes. It would have to compete against two highly popular consoles in their peaks; PS4 and Xbox One gamers won`t jump to buy a new Nintendo console consideing their last console and going to be too busy anyway, while Nintendo fans are going to be hesitant after a console that lasted only four years and wasn`t well supported. 

Pissing fans it's the last thing they should worry about now. R&D costs are already high (270m this quarter) and it's logical that's because new hardware must be ready.

And again with the Wii U, they had an 100m Wii userbase and now they are aiming at a 10m base by March 2015. 15m lifetime maybe. Anyone would risk those 15M in favor of the other 85m.

They are not selling, and keeping the low sales in favor of a conservative approach will harm them more than releasing new hardware. It's time for new and risky decisions.



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We seem to be forgetting their Quality Of Life push. Could it be that all thosr R&D costs are due to the development of their QOL "console" being in the pipeline?

It will probably be a mix of console, mobile and wearable technology, and maybe that will be their attempt to replicate Wii's success, while letting WiiU linger around for several more years to come.