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daredevil.shark said:

RYSE and dead rising 3? No thanks. I will be more than happy with resogun and infamous (getting ps4 within a week). History always repeats itself. And games runs better in ps4.

Do you have a link for that available as a list?

Nice picture, seriously though one of the big reasons I don't want an XB1 is because I'm sick of Halo, Forza & Gears. Without those 3 franchises, MS didn't offer anything the PS3 didn't have last 3 years.

XB1 did start strong, but I bet you in 3 years time, Microsofts support will fade.

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Also what do the green, yellow, red, and gray boxes mean?



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d21lewis said:

I can probably name dozens of things that repeated since the PS1 era and hundreds of things that haven't.  Every new gen is a blank slate where new mistakes are made and old mistakes are corrected....sometimes.  Nothing is guaranteed.

And every time I see that pic, I think of 360 games that don't count because they're available elsewhere.  One of those games is Witcher 2. If this were Genesis vs SNES (16-Bit Era) the logic of that site would dictate that the awesome DOOM isn't allowed to count for the SNES because it's available elsewhere.  If it's strictly exclusive vs exclusive, we get one picture.  If it's total library vs total library, we get another.  It all comes down to the picture we want to paint.

Even if you count 360/PC games, PS3 still vastly outnumbered the 360 the last few years in terms of exclusives.

I mean what did 360 get that's PC/360? Fable 3, Witcher 2 (which is kinda silly since 1 is PC only), and Alan Wake (or was this 2010?).



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Fusioncode said:

Recent pricedrops have lowered the XBO to $450 with a free $60 game bundled. That basically puts its value at $390, ten bucks cheaper than the PS4. Will this improved value lead to XBO taking the lead in March NPD, or will PS4 continue its winning streak? 


I'm sure it's been already pointed out a billion times but, you cant do this.

Even though the average consumer should realize "I have to buy a game with my PS4 anyway", for whatever reason, the brain just doesn't process like that.

A good way to tell is imagine a $399 Xbox One vs a $450 Xbox One with a pack in game, which will sell more? The former, by a long shot. Heck, people flocked to a short lived Amazon deal on 399 Xbox One.

 

Or you can look at it for PS4 as well, there are already 399 PS4 and $450 PS4 game bundles available, which sell better? The unbundled console, again by a mile. In fact they're usually reffered to as "forced" bundles.

 Of course one issue is not everybody may like the pack in game, and you're not given a choice. Another thing is you can buy a PS4 or XO and play Resogun, KI, or other F2P stuff (especially on PS4) and be happy until something you really want comes along in the fall. That was my original plan with XO. I wasn't planning on getting a game with it (before the pack in's started)



Michael-5 said:
daredevil.shark said:

RYSE and dead rising 3? No thanks. I will be more than happy with resogun and infamous (getting ps4 within a week). History always repeats itself. And games runs better in ps4.

Do you have a link for that available as a list?

Nice picture, seriously though one of the big reasons I don't want an XB1 is because I'm sick of Halo, Forza & Gears. Without those 3 franchises, MS didn't offer anything the PS3 didn't have last 3 years.

XB1 did start strong, but I bet you in 3 years time, Microsofts support will fade.

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Also what do the green, yellow, red, and gray boxes mean?

This pic was originally posted at neogaf but I got it from other sites. I dont have the list unfortunately. The colored boxes probably represent metacritic score.

Edit: Nope. Otherwise The last of us, GT6 would have been green. They probably represent other things (not release yet etc)



Michael-5 said:
d21lewis said:

I can probably name dozens of things that repeated since the PS1 era and hundreds of things that haven't.  Every new gen is a blank slate where new mistakes are made and old mistakes are corrected....sometimes.  Nothing is guaranteed.

And every time I see that pic, I think of 360 games that don't count because they're available elsewhere.  One of those games is Witcher 2. If this were Genesis vs SNES (16-Bit Era) the logic of that site would dictate that the awesome DOOM isn't allowed to count for the SNES because it's available elsewhere.  If it's strictly exclusive vs exclusive, we get one picture.  If it's total library vs total library, we get another.  It all comes down to the picture we want to paint.

Even if you count 360/PC games, PS3 still vastly outnumbered the 360 the last few years in terms of exclusives.

I mean what did 360 get that's PC/360? Fable 3, Witcher 2 (which is kinda silly since 1 is PC only), and Alan Wake (or was this 2010?).


Also fable 3 and alan wake came to pc.



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Michael-5 said:
LivingMetal said:
Michael-5 said:

Sony isn't making price cuts or bundling games for a reason, it's still selling out. This will help XB1, and maybe give it an edge in USA/UK for March, but only because PS4 stock is still limited. Once April comes around and PS4 stock is up, XB1 has no hope.

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P.S. I wonder how much of an impact Mario Kart 8 will have for the WiiU


Is Sony competing with Microsoft?  Of course, but I think with the PS4, they are trying to set a worldwide precedent which in turn will all them to compete better with the Xbox One as opposed to primarily trying to focus shipment allocations to just the territories the Xbox name brand has been doing well just to out sell the Xbox One in those particular territories.  I see that as long as the PS4 is in high demand in most of the world market it's in, Sony is going to ship PS4 as needed as fairly as possible without having to work about outselling the Xbox One in the US and UK.

What's your point? USA is getting shipments in April. Chances are they will sell out fast, and the shortage will continue, but XB1's sales aren't going anywhere so it's enough to continue outselling it.

This price cut and Titanfall release will only help the XB1 for a week or two. After that sales will drop back, even with the $50 price cut. I don't think people are waiting on PS4's and not buying XB1's because of a $100 (now $50) price difference. People want the PS4 because it has more qualities that gamers want, simple as that.


My point is that it doesn't matter whether Sony ships more PS4 units to the US to outsell the Xbox One there or they ship worldwide as needed, the PS4 will be selling out for a while in the foreseeable future.



LivingMetal said:
vivster said:
Great. Now people can finally see that it's not the price holding the X1 back.


You know, I was thinking the same thing.  Without a doubt the cost of these recent Xbox One deals will spur Xbox One sales, but for how long and will it outsell the competition.  And does it really matter to outsell the competition?  Microsoft just claimed that they are in this to win, and there in nothing wrong with that in and of itself.  My question is what it is they are trying to do to win is the real issue?  I don't care how cheap something is as long as it's something that doesn't offer what I want, I do not want it.  Any product I own and want doesn't have to be the number one selling item in its market.  It just has to be the one that caters to me.  For the consumer, it's better to create and market a profitable product for the consumer instead of being "in it for the win."  So let's see how well the Xbox One will sell from this point on with these bundles and pricedrops.


In it to win it. Hmmm maybe just to stay profitable. I remember i bought the Dreamcast(R.I.P.) it most definitely catered to me but that was not nearly enough. They were in it to win maybe for that number 1 sold spot but were losing money and not achieving either. They failed miserably i had to abandon ship on a great console. I agree with your post overall. In this case it would have been great to be number 1 in the market.



daredevil.shark said:
Michael-5 said:
daredevil.shark said:

RYSE and dead rising 3? No thanks. I will be more than happy with resogun and infamous (getting ps4 within a week). History always repeats itself. And games runs better in ps4.

Do you have a link for that available as a list?

Nice picture, seriously though one of the big reasons I don't want an XB1 is because I'm sick of Halo, Forza & Gears. Without those 3 franchises, MS didn't offer anything the PS3 didn't have last 3 years.

XB1 did start strong, but I bet you in 3 years time, Microsofts support will fade.

-----

Also what do the green, yellow, red, and gray boxes mean?

This pic was originally posted at neogaf but I got it from other sites. I dont have the list unfortunately. The colored boxes probably represent metacritic score.

Edit: Nope. Otherwise The last of us, GT6 would have been green. They probably represent other things (not release yet etc)

Yea and Judgement is green too ......what a terrible game, it's what made me give up on Gears.

I thought it was a release date too, but it's not. Gray for sure is unreleased (at the time it was made), and I noticed that red titles aren't 1st party. So maybe Green is 1st party, and Red is 3rd party. However Yellow, I dunno.

LivingMetal said:
Michael-5 said:

What's your point? USA is getting shipments in April. Chances are they will sell out fast, and the shortage will continue, but XB1's sales aren't going anywhere so it's enough to continue outselling it.

This price cut and Titanfall release will only help the XB1 for a week or two. After that sales will drop back, even with the $50 price cut. I don't think people are waiting on PS4's and not buying XB1's because of a $100 (now $50) price difference. People want the PS4 because it has more qualities that gamers want, simple as that.

My point is that it doesn't matter whether Sony ships more PS4 units to the US to outsell the Xbox One there or they ship worldwide as needed, the PS4 will be selling out for a while in the foreseeable future.

Oh I see, well Sony says it should be stocked up by summer, and around April it should be easier to buy one.



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mutantclown said:
The Dreamcast launched at $200 and no one wanted it. When people don't see the value, they don't care it's cheap. The Xbone can be as low as the same price as the PS4, it won't sell PS4 levels. People just don't see value and don't like the console.


The Xbox One has lots of value. Lets not get ridiculous. 



Shiken said:

Things are getting interesting. MS is really turning things around, but PS4 is still going strong. PS4 currently has more indies and big downloadable titles in the arsenal (more games overall). Also everyone knows about the superior multiplats as well.

X1 is fighting back though. In terms of retail games, X1 has only one more game than PS4 and that game is just a launch title. However in terms of quality both consoles are on par with their exclusive and they cater to different audiences as of now. Both have a lot lined up for the future as well. Furthermore while the PS4 has more power, X1 does offer certain media features that many will be interested in. The price drop will also help sell on par with the PS4 as of now, but it alone won't close the gap that already exsists.

All I can say is pay attention to E3 this year. It will certainly speak volumes for both sides.

Your sig (or whatever that video playing in your comment is called) made me laugh pretty hard.... and I'm a pretty staunch Xbox supporter.
But heh, funny's funny.