Yes, that's what I am saying. And what's so impressive about NSMBW/U? They're incredibly basic.

Nintendo may not always push the console the hardest, but they tend to get an excellent balance of graphics, gameplay, and story in (most) of their games. Looking forward to seeing what they do with Zelda U.

I'd say Jett Rocket, Sonic Colours, and Modern Warfare 3 gave the hardware a serious workout.

And Xenoblade is a first party Nintendo game.

Mario 64 and Ocarina were indeed pinnacles at the time, as was Mario Galaxy, but I believe they were topped later in their system's life.

I too would love to see them make a Wii U game as ambitious as Ocarina or Mario 64 were for their hardware.

Agreed about the stated fact, but there should have been Sega's F-Zero on GC. The game was so beautiful, clean and fast.

But I don't really think it's so specific to Nintendo. Quickly, most of the impressive games on megadrive or gamegear where 3rd. I can't remember a 1st party game better than black on xbox, etc. Sony is different on that, but their PS2 and PS3 cpu design were extremely complex and they were fully in charge and aware of the design details. For PS1 I can't remember an impressive 1st party game.

This.

I dunno, their last Nintendo game, Starfox Adventures, already marked the beginning of their mediocrity streak that continues today. Nintendo were just fine without the likes of Perfect Dark Zero and Nuts 'n' Bolts.

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One game on its own does not mark a mediocrity streak. With Nintendo's guiding hand there's no telling how successive games may have fared in terms of quality. It could have just been a one off, but with the takeover from Microsoft we'll never know.

Rare  needs to go back to Nintendo dammit. We would get many pantie-messing games ( both graphics and gameplay wise).