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Do Any of my 16th-20th Stand A Chance to be in SSB4? If So Which One?

Bowser Jr 13 26.53%
 
Medusa 3 6.12%
 
Bandana Dee 3 6.12%
 
Magnus 6 12.24%
 
Ghirahim 14 28.57%
 
None imo 9 18.37%
 
Total:48

 

IMPORTANT READ

Ranks 16th-20th in First Post

Ranks 11th-15th in Second Post

                                 

Hello and Welcome to Part 1 of my Top 20 Most Realistic Newcomers for SSB WiiU/3DS! This thread will be my opinion on what characters have the best chance to make it in the game (not to be confused with my top wanted).

For this thread i will list the bottom 5 (16th-20th) of my top 20. I will proceed with another thread to continue through the ranks. By all means this is opinionated so if you agree/disagree with anything i say pls post your reasons and predictions!

 

Now before we get started i want to point out 2 things.

1. Before E3 i made a top 10 list of newcomers. Little Mac was #2, Rosalina was #8, Megaman was Honorable Mention. The other 2 were a great surprise (especially Wii Fit Trainer)

2. Since i made a top 20 i will point out on who missed out here as honorable mentions 

                                                        ◆ HONORABLE MENTIONS ◆

 

Now that thats all cleared up lets begin!!!!!

 

                                                                   ★ TOP 16th - 20th Characters ★

Yes, Yes We start the countdown with no other than Bowser Jr! For those wondering why Boswer Jr is sooo low on this list, its very simple. We already have So many Mario Representatives! Dont get me wrong, this character makes total sense being playable in SSB. But with the announcement of Rosalina in the next installment, the count is 5 for the franchise. 

If Bowser Jr would make it i can see him being about the same speed as Bowser (yeah slow i know) but with his own arsenal. You know the Paint Brush from his debut game (SMS), as well as him shoot fireballs from his mouth unlike his father (which uses a fire breath instead!).

Well if he did join i wouldn't be against it but others will probably cuz mario would have had 6 characters in the game o.O

♥Pros                                                                ♡Cons

⇒ Popular Character getting In                        ⇒ Could be a Clone of Bowser                                                

⇒ Another Villain                                              ⇒ Too many Mario Characters (Slot would be wasted for another)        

 

 

 

 

 

Coming at the number 19 spot is the demon queen herself Medusa, not only is the character  female... but also she is a main villain! Yes 2 in one! For those of you who haven't gotten the pleasure of being introduced to this evil being, she is from the franchise Kid Icarus. And in the original game she was the main antagonist.

She does also appear in the latest game (Kid Icarus Uprising) as the first main antagonist intill you defeat her. KI franchise only has one representative which is the main protagonist himself Pit which only appeared intill SSBB. I think its very safe to say there will be at least 2 in the next installment, especially considering the fact Sakarai himself is the one who developed the latest KI games. She is only low on this list cuz somebody else imo has the much better chance of making it in (99% of you should know )

 

 

♥Pros                                                        ♡Cons

⇒ Female Representative                          ⇒ Somebody else in particular has a much greater chance to be in instead                                          

⇒ Another Villain  (Female Villain!)             ⇒ More Characters Introduced in KIU (might of detroned her)      

⇒ Can Be very unique with Staff

⇒ Kid Icarus Representatives Needed!

 

 

 

 

 

 

     

This Character..... Oh Man, this character would easily be in my top 10 most wanted list, but this list represents top most realistic predictions so its obvious why he is so low. Bandana Dee has made a couple appearance as of late. He is 1 of the 4 playable characters for Kirby's Return to Dreamland on Wii (3 of which is playable in SSBB) and he appears in Kirby Triple Deluxe as a support character. Did i mention not even Metaknight made an appearance in the game :0

The problem with Bandana Dee is that if Metaknight returns to SSB (which i really believe) then Kirby franchise sits at 3 characters. Now Kirby is a big franchise but i think 3 is enough, but if Sakarai wanted a 4th character for the franchise in the game, i have no doubt Bandana Dee would make the Cut! ..... Did I mention he uses a spear and can hover with it? :)

 

♥Pros                                                                        ♡Cons

⇒ Very Unique and Be The Only SPEAR USER           ⇒ Kirby Franchise Already Has Enough Representatives                                       

⇒ Kirby Franchise Is Awesome (ok thats personal!)    ⇒ He isnt as popular as some of the others

 

 

The number 17 spot goes to the one, the only Magnus! Many will say "Who the **** is that"? Thats cuz he is introduced in Kid Icarus Uprising so he is relatively new. The reason i had chose this character (especially a little higher than Medusa) is because this character is a playable character in the story line of a KI game. He plays an important role in 2 chapters including an additional chapter (dont want to spoil). 

He weilds a big sword which can be accessed by Pit as his own Weapon (Club class). Its short range by hell-a powerful! Like I previously stated for Medusa Sakarai is the creator of KIU but with that said, there is still one character that just makes ore sense than Medusa and Magnus..... When Will ____ Appear on the list? :P

 

♥Pros                                                                        ♡Cons

⇒ Kid Icarus Representatives Needed!                     ⇒ Somebody else in particular has a much greater chance to be in instead                          

⇒ Very Strong Powerful Character                            ⇒ More Characters Introduced in KIU   

⇒ HUGE F-ING Sword!                                              ⇒ Might be Ike Replacement (Clone)

⇒ Only Playable Character In KI (not counting Pit/Dark Pit)

 

 

 

Next up on the Top 20 countdown is Ghiraham. He is the main antagonist of LoZ Skyward Sword. Out of all zelda villain characters, he is probably the most involved in terms of interaction/story of all time. Sure you had Zant (Twilight Princess) or Skull Kid (Majora's Mask) seen quite alot but Ghiraham takes the cake in Most involved!

There are already 3 confirmed characters in the next installment, with ganondorf most likely returning and a big possibility of Sheik's return. Thats a total of 5 characters and thats a reason why LoZ might not have another rep (newcomer). But if they did, i see Ghiraham making it in, despite SS being the least popular (saleswise) of the LoZ console titles. He can use his sword with magic attacks used in game. He also is a weapon himself that can be very unique with a style of play. Im sure if he would be given the chance to play in SSB his FS would be himself turning into a sword and summoning the demon Demise!

 

 

♥Pros                                                                ♡Cons

⇒ Best Newcomer Rep from LoZ                         ⇒    Already 3 (most likely 5) Representatives from LoZ                       

⇒ Skull Kid confirmed as Assist Trophy               ⇒    Comes from Least popular LoZ

⇒ Body is a weapon!

 

 

 



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                             ★ TOP 11th - 15th Characters ★

Alright lets begin the countdown yet again! Today we will do the next 5 characters (11th-15th). Starting with the 15th Spot, we have the marvelous, swift yet very cute swordsman (or should i say swordswoman) Lucina. She is a character that made her debut in FE Awakening as the main female protagonist.

*Spoilers For Awakening: Do not read the rest of this paragraph if you dont want a major spoiler! (skip this paragraph now)......... Ok, she is in fact the mask character acting as Marth in the beginning of the story. She has a very similar build to that of Marth as well. The reason i put her in the top 20 countdown is cuz i dont necessarily think she'll be her own character but maybe an Alt skin for Marth!

As many of us know, there may just be a hint that some characters with an alt skin (another character, same slot). With Marth, Lucina can be the Female counterpart. Below is a pic of Wii Fit Trainer, and the male counterpart. Its currently unknown if its an Alt skin but many fans seem to speculate it is!

All I know is there Will be at LEAST 2 character representatives, will Lucina be one? or maybe a Alt Skin?

 

♥Pros                                                                                    ♡Cons

⇒ Female Rep!                                                                      ⇒  Another FE character can be in it instead                                           

⇒ Most popular Girl protagonist in FE (not counting Lynn)  ⇒ Skins Unconfirmed

⇒ Can just be An Alternate Skin For Marth!                         ⇒ Clone Character (if not Alt Skin)

⇒ Sexy Swordstyle :p (not a real reason)

 

 

Number 14! The Name's Dillon! From Dillon's Western Roll (3DS eShop). Some of you might of heard of him, for the ones who haven't, he's an armadillo who's a cowboy thats the hero all the way from the West! He has 2 games, both of which is from the nintendo eShop. For anybody wanting to kno more click here for a video → http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyLvnK8e9WE

His game is pretty unique as its a time strategy game on the go. Using a roll attack and heavy claws to knock down on some opponents, he is farely a speedy powerful character. He's on the list for a reason. He can easily represent the eShop. Out of all the big games eShop only by nintendo he just seems like a smash character, he even got a sequel last year. He also has various power ups that can be put into his moveset is needed.

He would of been put higher but not being as popular and needed as other characters, he is stuck in the #14 spot! (other big eShop characters are Pushmo and Harmoknight) *note these are nintendo characters, so no mutant mudds kid :-/

 

 

♥Pros                                                                   ♡Cons

⇒ eShop Rep!                                                       ⇒  Might be seen as clone of Sonic                           

⇒ Cowboy, unique arsenal if used right                ⇒ Not popular and Iconic as others

⇒ Can help make a name for himself + make eShop more associated with imo                       

 

 

 

Coming up at #13, the infamous Geno. Believe it or not, this character is from the Mario universe yet not owned by nintendo. Long long ago, Square had partnered with nintendo to make Mario's First RPG on the SNES. This was called Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars!

Let me state out by saying it is my favorite game of all time. That said, Geno is one of 5 playable characters (1 of 2 newly introduced) and has a very wide popularity. Geno is one of the top if not #1 most requested character to be in SSB. The thing that makes him not get in is that nintendo unfortunately doesn't own him. But With Megaman/Sonic heck even Snake (ssbb), you never know! If there were a character that sakarai would ask to be in the game (non nintendo character) he is definitely a big candidate.

Geno is a Star coming down from the heavens, he goes inside a wooden doll which he possesses to be able to move about. A doll that shoots beams and various weaponery at his side. His famous GENO WHIRL attack is the strongest attack in game (possibly ever game in terms of statistics) with a chance of hitting with a power of 9999! Of course it doesn't work on bosses :)

 

♥Pros                                                                         ♡Cons

⇒ A possessed Doll                                                     ⇒  Not a Nintendo owned Character                         

⇒ Already one of the most requested characters       ⇒ Only starred in one game (SNES)

⇒ Unique and would bring an interesting moveset

 



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Am I allowed to post yet? :P

I think Wonder Red should've been on this list, although maybe that isn't really a "realistic" suggestion :(

Anyways, I don't really think any of these characters are interesting or unique enough to be full blown characters...I could see all of them as assist trophies though. Medusa could work but I don't really think KIU needs three representatives (Palutena would be the obvious second choice after Pit).

I will be waiting for the rest of your list ^.^



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sundin13 said:
Am I allowed to post yet? :P

I think Wonder Red should've been on this list, although maybe that isn't really a "realistic" suggestion :(

Anyways, I don't really think any of these characters are interesting or unique enough to be full blown characters...I could see all of them as assist trophies though. Medusa could work but I don't really think KIU needs three representatives (Palutena would be the obvious second choice after Pit).

I will be waiting for the rest of your list ^.^


Yeah, i'll be doing all the top here! Today is from 16th-20th. i really dont think they will make it either, but there is some hope (even if very little). My top 12 wil be the real Top I just wanted to clarify my top 20. Wonder Red would be cool, i just dont see it. Its cons are not big enough of a franchise, other franchise representatives deserve  to be in it more, and lastly he would have to be made from the ground up. His attacks (from the game) are all HUGE and need lots of human players following o.O! Sakarai can alter things but i cant see it... at least for now!



Whoa! I want Ghirahim in Smash Bros.! Never thought about him, but he is one of the coolest characters in the Zelda Universe!



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I think all the Unite attacks could be shrunken and just given to Wonder Red. It seems like the moveset is practically already made. You already have a chain grab, projectile, reflector, smash attacks, recovery...

Also, Ghirahim would be awesome. Of the 20-16 crew, he is by far the most deserving. He would probably be in my Top 5 picks for newcomers (I love Skyward Sword so much @.@)



sundin13 said:
Also, Ghirahim would be awesome. Of the 20-16 crew, he is by far the most deserving. He would probably be in my Top 5 picks for newcomers (I love Skyward Sword so much @.@)

Same for me! Too bad not a lot of people liked it! Its my second favorite Zelda game (1. OOT, 2. SS, 3. TP)!



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