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anonymunchy on 16 February 2014

Most of the commercially successful music is uninspired garbage I think, the quality stuff is hard to find.

Here's a youtube channel with some pretty awesome rock/metal albums, recent ones as well though mostly aimed at the stoner.
https://www.youtube.com/user/StOnEdMeAdOwOfDoOm/featured



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TheJimbo1234 on 16 February 2014

Wrong genre's -that's why.
EDM and trance is doing good.



crissindahouse on 16 February 2014

well, 99% of the music of nowadays is never in the radio or on tv so that you just have to listen to music which isn't on tv or the most famous radio stations if you think that music is bad.

I don't think music is worse as it was 20 or even 50 years ago but mainstream music changed much in the direction that the lyrics or instruments aren't that important anymore (except for the "ohh they put a saxophone in the track now it will be a hit in clubs")



Areym on 16 February 2014

Holy shit, your paragraph was painful to read. I know it's the internet but goddamn dude. Punctuation, Grammar and sentence structure.

On that note, I agree. Music is pretty shitty now a days. That statement sounds cynical but that's the truth. Every radio station for today's music is just the same played out beat about partying and living it up, sex, drugs, and niggas doing stupid shit (niggas as in ignorant idiots) I love rock and electronica/electro house or whatever the fuck its called. Now a days, the less lyrics the better because no one has anything meaningful or decent to say.



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DamnTastic on 16 February 2014

I agree on mainstream.
I can't stand anything hiphop, rap and all that shite.

 

however there is plenty of decent music these days imo.

Chillwave, deephouse, indie rock, DnB etc Love em all



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episteme on 16 February 2014
Kongfucius said:
episteme said:

I think it also has something to do with extremely loud mastering since the mid-90's. Many remastered versions of classic albums sound as boring as the new ones.

It's very hard to find a mainstram album with good sound quality nowadays.
Take Metallica or Red Hot Chili Peppers as example. They had some of the best produced albums in the early 90's and some of the worst produced albums in history in recent years. But the songs itself aren't that bad, it's the mastering that ruins everything.

I don't listen much to pop music, but the Bruno Mars albums produced like the original mastering of Michael Jackson's Bad (2001 SE and Bad 25 suck) would be amazing.

Though he's not the only one doing it, when it comes to RHCP and Metallica that's mostly Rick Rubin's fault. That said an aggressive, compressed mix is actually suitable for certain music in my opinion, there are bits on Californication where I prefer the official release (Parallel Universe, Around the World) and others where I like the "quiet mix" you can find on youtube (Californication itself, for example)

To address the OP's point I certainly understand where you are coming from, as someone who listens to a lot of music that was made many years before I was born (I'm actually listening to The Cure right now, for example) the overwhelming majority of modern popular music does absolutely nothing for me, but people are right to point out that, even if you have to look a bit harder for it, there is lots of great new music out there.

If you can try listening to some less mainstream radio stations, the type who tend not to be swayed so much by chart positions and just play what they like because they think it's good. That said a lot of my music on my iPod is older, and if I was asked to list my all time favourite albums I think the most modern is still from 2001 (Muse - Origin of Symmetry), most well before that :)

There's stilll great stuff today, but the mainstream is much worse than decades ago.

I'm glad that some mastering engineers try to restore the original fidelity to avoid a lost generation of music.



Kongfucius on 16 February 2014
episteme said:
Kongfucius said:
episteme said:

I think it also has something to do with extremely loud mastering since the mid-90's. Many remastered versions of classic albums sound as boring as the new ones.

It's very hard to find a mainstram album with good sound quality nowadays.
Take Metallica or Red Hot Chili Peppers as example. They had some of the best produced albums in the early 90's and some of the worst produced albums in history in recent years. But the songs itself aren't that bad, it's the mastering that ruins everything.

I don't listen much to pop music, but the Bruno Mars albums produced like the original mastering of Michael Jackson's Bad (2001 SE and Bad 25 suck) would be amazing.

Though he's not the only one doing it, when it comes to RHCP and Metallica that's mostly Rick Rubin's fault. That said an aggressive, compressed mix is actually suitable for certain music in my opinion, there are bits on Californication where I prefer the official release (Parallel Universe, Around the World) and others where I like the "quiet mix" you can find on youtube (Californication itself, for example)

To address the OP's point I certainly understand where you are coming from, as someone who listens to a lot of music that was made many years before I was born (I'm actually listening to The Cure right now, for example) the overwhelming majority of modern popular music does absolutely nothing for me, but people are right to point out that, even if you have to look a bit harder for it, there is lots of great new music out there.

If you can try listening to some less mainstream radio stations, the type who tend not to be swayed so much by chart positions and just play what they like because they think it's good. That said a lot of my music on my iPod is older, and if I was asked to list my all time favourite albums I think the most modern is still from 2001 (Muse - Origin of Symmetry), most well before that :)

There's stilll great stuff today, but the mainstream is much worse than decades ago.

I'm glad that some mastering engineers try to restore the original fidelity to avoid a lost generation of music.


Exactly, it's a nice feeling listening to a favourite album that's been given a proper remaster and sounds even better then before - the recent round of Pink Floyd remasters are good examples I'd say



DerpSandwich on 16 February 2014

While I'm sure plenty of people have already given this reply, you're thinking of POPULAR music. While I do think in the past there was better popular music, there has always been a wealth of great music below the surface, and now is no different. In fact, because of digital distribution and the power of the internet, I'd say that indie music (the literal thing, not the quirky bearded genre) has never been better.

You've just got to look for it. And you're not going to find it on the radio.



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DamnTastic on 16 February 2014
crissindahouse said:

well, 99% of the music of nowadays is never in the radio or on tv so that you just have to listen to music which isn't on tv or the most famous radio stations if you think that music is bad.

I don't think music is worse as it was 20 or even 50 years ago but mainstream music changed much in the direction that the lyrics or instruments aren't that important anymore (except for the "ohh they put a saxophone in the track now it will be a hit in clubs")

but... but... the Saxo is amazing :(

It's my favorite instrument by far



episteme on 16 February 2014
Kongfucius said:
episteme said:
Kongfucius said:
episteme said:

I think it also has something to do with extremely loud mastering since the mid-90's. Many remastered versions of classic albums sound as boring as the new ones.

It's very hard to find a mainstram album with good sound quality nowadays.
Take Metallica or Red Hot Chili Peppers as example. They had some of the best produced albums in the early 90's and some of the worst produced albums in history in recent years. But the songs itself aren't that bad, it's the mastering that ruins everything.

I don't listen much to pop music, but the Bruno Mars albums produced like the original mastering of Michael Jackson's Bad (2001 SE and Bad 25 suck) would be amazing.

Though he's not the only one doing it, when it comes to RHCP and Metallica that's mostly Rick Rubin's fault. That said an aggressive, compressed mix is actually suitable for certain music in my opinion, there are bits on Californication where I prefer the official release (Parallel Universe, Around the World) and others where I like the "quiet mix" you can find on youtube (Californication itself, for example)

To address the OP's point I certainly understand where you are coming from, as someone who listens to a lot of music that was made many years before I was born (I'm actually listening to The Cure right now, for example) the overwhelming majority of modern popular music does absolutely nothing for me, but people are right to point out that, even if you have to look a bit harder for it, there is lots of great new music out there.

If you can try listening to some less mainstream radio stations, the type who tend not to be swayed so much by chart positions and just play what they like because they think it's good. That said a lot of my music on my iPod is older, and if I was asked to list my all time favourite albums I think the most modern is still from 2001 (Muse - Origin of Symmetry), most well before that :)

There's stilll great stuff today, but the mainstream is much worse than decades ago.

I'm glad that some mastering engineers try to restore the original fidelity to avoid a lost generation of music.


Exactly, it's a nice feeling listening to a favourite album that's been given a proper remaster and sounds even better then before - the recent round of Pink Floyd remasters are good examples I'd say

Yes, the Pink Floyd reissues are good, but the old CDs were also great (maybe not all of them). Is starts to get annoying to see new issues every few years. I took the 5.1 DTS-HD MA of The Dark Side of The Moon Blu-ray and mixed all channels into a stereo file. Sounds amazing and better than the original stereo mix.