I wonder if this will be a Xenoblade sequel not just "spiritual successor" given the extreme similarities in the combat system and overall look of the game.
X looks... | |||
Awesome ! | 299 | 65.14% | |
Good | 77 | 16.78% | |
okay | 70 | 15.25% | |
terrible ! ( I am jealous ) | 12 | 2.61% | |
Total: | 458 |
I wonder if this will be a Xenoblade sequel not just "spiritual successor" given the extreme similarities in the combat system and overall look of the game.
DerNebel said: I was actually pretty interested in X, but I have to honestly say that this trailer killed alot of that interest, or at least put it on hold. It just all looked just very much like mindless button mashing. Also, and I know this is nitpicking but the constant talking of the characters really annoyed me. |
The gameplay doesn't look good until you experience it. It isn't mindless button masshing. You are constantly switching between position specific arts to get the most damage and possibly some morale along with it. Depending on how close it is to Xenoblade.
Xenoblade's combat is awesome to play. You can't really understand it until you play it.
I would like to try a demo of this
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Hynad said:
Here, let me quote it for you:
@ Bigmouth: You haven't provided a single factual evidence that what you claim about FF XV is remotelly true. So what's there to argue? You're assuming everything you're spouting as facts, but have nothing to go by. Those trailers? Yeah, sure! They give a slight idea of what could be going on. But I don't pass a definite judgment on something based on assumptions. That would be stupid and unreasonable. I'll make an educated judgement once I fully know what I'm dealing with. I invite you to do the same. But based on your behaviour so far, I strongly doubt you can ever do that. I'm not going to bash something based on whatever suits an agenda I don't even have. You think you've got evidences, but they're nothing but assumptions. Xenoblade is an open world RPG with a sandbox feel. As in: It's open world, sure, as you get to explore its massive world without too much constraints or an overly linear path, but it's not a sandbox. Sandbox means a living "breathing world" that evolves as you play, based on your actions and choices, and in which you can dynamically change some parameters. Hence the "sandbox" appellation. |
jack100:
Tangible: Possible to understand or realize.
I'm showing videos to allow anyone reading an understanding of my point of view. Hynad didn't understand why I said FF XV looked limited so I gave something tangible. Notice Hynad cannot do the same, and instead is rambling on about things without providing anything to back it up whatsoever.
Hynad:
I'm making stuff up? Lol, show me something that proves I'm wrong. Though I know you can't or it would have already been posted. The "agenda" could be to prove me wrong.
First you ask me to show you something and when I do you say "That doesn't count!" Lol.
Yet again with the agenda thing. What else do you believe? Nicki Minaj is illuminati and XBone's Kinect is out to get you.
As for whether or not Xenoblade is sandbox jrpg, that is something that is a bit more grey area that we could discuss next. It isn't exactly sandbox and it isn't exactly not sandbox by the strictest definition.
bigtakilla said:
jack100: I'm showing videos to allow anyone reading an understanding of my point of view. Hynad didn't understand why I said FF XV looked limited so I gave something tangible. Notice Hynad cannot do the same, and instead is rambling on about things without providing anything to back it up whatsoever. Hynad: I'm making stuff up? Lol, show me something that proves I'm wrong. Though I know you can't or it would have already been posted. The "agenda" could be to prove me wrong. First you ask me to show you something and when I do you say "That doesn't count!" Lol. Yet again with the agenda thing. What else do you believe? Nicki Minaj is illuminati and XBone's Kinect is out to get you. As for whether or not Xenoblade is sandbox jrpg, that is something that is a bit more grey area that we could discuss next. It isn't exactly sandbox and it isn't exactly not sandbox by the strictest definition. |
Of course you're making stuff up. It's not that what you brought up count or not. It's that you state as fact what you believe you're seeing in those trailer.
"XV looked like XIII, limited explorable areas and one player with one weapon. X is online multiplayer, sandbox, and much more diverse in combat. if smoothness (which I felt was no smoother than X) is all you're looking for (because you give no examples for impressiveness) then keep swallowing the S-E gravy. "
You're saying XV only has limited explorable areas. Because they're showing characters roaming and fighting in a city? X has that too. What about that open field area, where we see characters on what seems to be a world map? What about Nomura's claim that he's bringing back controllable airships to the franchise after an absence since FF X? One player with only one weapon? What tells you that you're not allowed to switch characters? More diverse in combat? The hell do you know? We have seen next to nothing of FF XV's battle system, and you're claiming to know it all based on that. Again, you're basing your shit on nothing but assumptions. And I've already made myself clear that I'm not going to do that. You're the one being a hater here, not me.
I'm interested in both games. I loved Xenoblade. And X is my most anticipated Wii U game because of that. You, on the other hand, are the one mindlessly bashing one game to make the other look better. You're the one who has an agenda.
HyrulianScrolls said: Xenoblade's combat is awesome to play. You can't really understand it until you play it. |
Amen.
Hynad said:
You're saying XV only has limited explorable areas. Because they're showing characters roaming and fighting in a city? X has that too. What about that open field area, where we see characters on what seems to be a world map? What about Nomura's claim that he's bringing back controllable airships to the franchise after an absence since FF X? One player with only one weapon? What tells you that you're not allowed to switch characters? More diverse in combat? The hell do you know? We have seen next to nothing of FF XV's battle system, and you're claiming to know it all based on that. Again, you're basing your shit on nothing but assumptions. And I've already made myself clear that I'm not going to do that. You're the one being a hater here, not me. |
First off, I never said you couldn't switch characters, I was just saying only 1 person has the ability to play the game. In fact, I know you can control more than one character based off of the trailers. I was just saying it isn't multiplayer.
You are right that both games have city scenes, the difference is in 3 trailers X has shown how vast the World they have to explore is, in like 7 trailers XV shows the same limited exploration as FFXIII.
More diverse combat is something that was shown. There were numerous battle scenes for both games in the trailers they have to offer.
Last whether or not you want to is fine, but even IF you wanted to you couldn't because there is no proof of anything other than what I said. Lol.
bigtakilla said: First off, I never said you couldn't switch characters, I was just saying only 1 person has the ability to play the game. In fact, I know you can control more than one character based off of the trailers. I was just saying it isn't multiplayer. You are right that both games have city scenes, the difference is in 3 trailers X has shown how vast the World they have to explore is, in like 7 trailers XV shows the same limited exploration as FFXIII. More diverse combat is something that was shown. There were numerous battle scenes for both games in the trailers they have to offer. Last whether or not you want to is fine, but even IF you wanted to you couldn't because there is no proof of anything other than what I said. Lol. |
That's the thing. There are no proof at all. But you try to convince people that you're right. Arguing with a closed minded person like you, who likes to put everything inside a little box based on what he wants to believe, is an exercise in futility. I would express the impressions those trailers gave me. I see a lot of diversity in battle, aiming with guns, teleporting around, an actual real time combat system, free roaming on the world map is shown, dynamic environments, an epic scale, etc... But you're asking for proof. There's no proof! Neither to prove my impression is what the game will end up being, or yours. And that's my point! You don't have proof. You have an impression the game will be a certain way. Nothing more. But you keep going "Wha wha wha. Mommy told me I'm a good boy, so I'm always right about what I think!"... xD
Also, learn to cut the quote trees. I know forum etiquette is alien to you, but you should consider reading the forum rules.
Using one of the argument you use to try to diminish FFXV's appeal back at you: Xenoblade is not that great of a game... After all, only one person can play that game. It's not multiplayer. ¬_¬
Hynad said:
That's the thing. There are no proof at all. But you try to convince people that you're right. Arguing with a closed minded person like you, who likes to put everything inside a little box based on what he wants to believe, is an exercise in futility. I would express the impressions those trailers gave me. I see a lot of diversity in battle, aiming with guns, teleporting around, an actual real time combat system, free roaming on the world map is shown, dynamic environments, an epic scale, etc... But you're asking for proof. There's no proof! Neither to prove my impression is what the game will end up being, or yours. And that's my point! You don't have proof. You have an impression the game will be a certain way. Nothing more. But you keep going "Wha wha wha. Mommy told me I'm a good boy, so I'm always right about what I think!"... xD |
Nah, I like the quote trees.
Also, Xenoblade was great, but X will be vastly better. Just like XV will be good, but X will be vastly better. But that's just our opinions.
Next I'm not questioning whether or not there will be any combat diversity in XV's combat, it's just for the most part generic ARPG fare. X on the other hand offers more.
Now continue to scour the internet trying to find something that proves me wrong, lol.
Also, it's easy for people to tell you you're right when you are, you should try being right sometime. xD
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