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X looks...

Awesome ! 299 65.14%
 
Good 77 16.78%
 
okay 70 15.25%
 
terrible ! ( I am jealous ) 12 2.61%
 
Total:458

I wonder if this will be a Xenoblade sequel not just "spiritual successor" given the extreme similarities in the combat system and overall look of the game.



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DerNebel said:
I was actually pretty interested in X, but I have to honestly say that this trailer killed alot of that interest, or at least put it on hold.
It just all looked just very much like mindless button mashing. Also, and I know this is nitpicking but the constant talking of the characters really annoyed me.

The gameplay doesn't look good until you experience it. It isn't mindless button masshing. You are constantly switching between position specific arts to get the most damage and possibly some morale along with it. Depending on how close it is to Xenoblade. 



Xenoblade's combat is awesome to play. You can't really understand it until you play it.



I would like to try a demo of this



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Hynad said:
jack100 said:
bigtakilla said:
Hynad said:

He probably doesn't even realise that X is one of my most anticipated games. 

He thinks you need to bash something to make something else look more appealing. Both games look phenomenal. Both are different. And at the end of the day, we know more about X's gameplay than we do FF XV, but he likes to pretend he knows better. His guesses about FF XV's game design are ludicrous at best and overly narrow-minded.

I'll enjoy both games, and that pretty much all that matters.

So I'm providing tangable examples and you're coming back with speculation and I'm the one with the "agenda", lol. If it makes you sleep better at night. You've yet to provide me with any examples of me being wrong, just saying. It isn't like I only provided the trailers that fit my ideas, and ommited others. I showed every trailer out (that I know of, do feel free to provide a link to any others to further solidify my points). Also, hitting a button to to bring up a map with at least no on screen minimap? That seems like bad game design in an open World game.

BTW, Xenoblade not sandbox? You obviously havent played Xenoblade. Lol. 

Hynad, no offense, but you're delusionnal.

FF XV and X hasn't come out yet and there is no tangible ANYTHING for both games.  The only thing you can say is that each game will most likely be similar to their predecessor.  So someone saying X will be similar to Xenoblade is just as a proper assumption like saying FF 15 is like FF 13 (14 is the MMO, so I'm not counting that.

Also how can you even support Sony or SE for FF15.  THey've been dangling that game for YEARS so people would buy a PS3.  It's like their grand turismo scheme the annouced it and I think it was 5 years later it came out.  I'm just ranting on this part.  We should stay with the initial discussion.


Delusional? Seriously? Do you even know what that word means?

Have you even seen this? 

Here, let me quote it for you: 

Tetsuya Takahashi: "The game's battle system is based on the one in Xenoblade Chronicles for Wii, but with even more polish."

So, yes, assuming it will be similar to Xenoblade is pretty proper, since the developer is suggesting this himself.

When it comes to Final Fantasy XV, what the heck does Sony has to do with anything? Seriously... ¬_¬
We haven't got much info about that game. Yes, it's taking them ages to release the game. So what? I should hate S-E for that? I don't share that childish and moronic sense of entitlement many gamers do these days.

Based on the few trailers we've got from FF XV, and contrary to what Bigmouth is trying to force down everyone's throat here, it's not that easy to put the game in a box and pretend to know everything it will offer.

 

@ Bigmouth: You haven't provided a single factual evidence that what you claim about FF XV is remotelly true. So what's there to argue? You're assuming everything you're spouting as facts, but have nothing to go by. Those trailers? Yeah, sure! They give a slight idea of what could be going on. But I don't pass a definite judgment on something based on assumptions. That would be stupid and unreasonable. I'll make an educated judgement once I fully know what I'm dealing with. I invite you to do the same. But based on your behaviour so far, I strongly doubt you can ever do that.

I'm not going to bash something based on whatever suits an agenda I don't even have. You think you've got evidences, but they're nothing but assumptions. Xenoblade is an open world RPG with a sandbox feel. As in: It's open world, sure, as you get to explore its massive world without too much constraints or an overly linear path, but it's not a sandbox. Sandbox means a living "breathing world" that evolves as you play, based on your actions and choices, and in which you can dynamically change some parameters. Hence the "sandbox" appellation. 

Xenoblade's world progression evolves based on key trigger moments in the game just the same as most other well crafted JRPG (read: Not FF XIII). Its delivery is stellar, but it's not a living, evolving, dynamically changing world. It's no Elder Scrolls, GTA or Fallout. But I suspect this distinction of mine will result in us arguing over the semantic rather than on the core of the matter here. Which is: We don't know much about FF XV, and bashing it the way you do just to make X look better is childish at best. One can say a game looks more appealing than an other without making stuff up based on an obvious agenda to justify his preference. Hating on something you don't know is certainly retarded and points to a great deal of ignorance. And as most sane people know, ignorance is the enemy of reason.

jack100:

 
Tangible: Possible to understand or realize.  

I'm showing videos to allow anyone reading an understanding of my point of view. Hynad didn't understand why I said FF XV looked limited so I gave something tangible. Notice Hynad cannot do the same, and instead is rambling on about things without providing anything to back it up whatsoever. 

Hynad:

I'm making stuff up? Lol, show me something that proves I'm wrong. Though I know you can't or it would have already been posted. The "agenda" could be to prove me wrong. 

First you ask me to show you something and when I do you say "That doesn't count!" Lol. 

Yet again with the agenda thing. What else do you believe? Nicki Minaj is illuminati and XBone's Kinect is out to get you. 

As for whether or not Xenoblade is sandbox jrpg, that is something that is a bit more grey area that we could discuss next. It isn't exactly sandbox and it isn't exactly not sandbox by the strictest definition. 



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bigtakilla said:
Hynad said:

Delusional? Seriously? Do you even know what that word means?

Have you even seen this? 

Here, let me quote it for you: 

Tetsuya Takahashi: "The game's battle system is based on the one in Xenoblade Chronicles for Wii, but with even more polish."

So, yes, assuming it will be similar to Xenoblade is pretty proper, since the developer is suggesting this himself.

When it comes to Final Fantasy XV, what the heck does Sony has to do with anything? Seriously... ¬_¬
We haven't got much info about that game. Yes, it's taking them ages to release the game. So what? I should hate S-E for that? I don't share that childish and moronic sense of entitlement many gamers do these days.

Based on the few trailers we've got from FF XV, and contrary to what Bigmouth is trying to force down everyone's throat here, it's not that easy to put the game in a box and pretend to know everything it will offer.

 

@ Bigmouth: You haven't provided a single factual evidence that what you claim about FF XV is remotelly true. So what's there to argue? You're assuming everything you're spouting as facts, but have nothing to go by. Those trailers? Yeah, sure! They give a slight idea of what could be going on. But I don't pass a definite judgment on something based on assumptions. That would be stupid and unreasonable. I'll make an educated judgement once I fully know what I'm dealing with. I invite you to do the same. But based on your behaviour so far, I strongly doubt you can ever do that.

I'm not going to bash something based on whatever suits an agenda I don't even have. You think you've got evidences, but they're nothing but assumptions. Xenoblade is an open world RPG with a sandbox feel. As in: It's open world, sure, as you get to explore its massive world without too much constraints or an overly linear path, but it's not a sandbox. Sandbox means a living "breathing world" that evolves as you play, based on your actions and choices, and in which you can dynamically change some parameters. Hence the "sandbox" appellation. 

Xenoblade's world progression evolves based on key trigger moments in the game just the same as most other well crafted JRPG (read: Not FF XIII). Its delivery is stellar, but it's not a living, evolving, dynamically changing world. It's no Elder Scrolls, GTA or Fallout. But I suspect this distinction of mine will result in us arguing over the semantic rather than on the core of the matter here. Which is: We don't know much about FF XV, and bashing it the way you do just to make X look better is childish at best. One can say a game looks more appealing than an other without making stuff up based on an obvious agenda to justify his preference. Hating on something you don't know is certainly retarded and points to a great deal of ignorance. And as most sane people know, ignorance is the enemy of reason.

jack100:

 
Tangible: Possible to understand or realize.  

I'm showing videos to allow anyone reading an understanding of my point of view. Hynad didn't understand why I said FF XV looked limited so I gave something tangible. Notice Hynad cannot do the same, and instead is rambling on about things without providing anything to back it up whatsoever. 

Hynad:

I'm making stuff up? Lol, show me something that proves I'm wrong. Though I know you can't or it would have already been posted. The "agenda" could be to prove me wrong. 

First you ask me to show you something and when I do you say "That doesn't count!" Lol. 

Yet again with the agenda thing. What else do you believe? Nicki Minaj is illuminati and XBone's Kinect is out to get you. 

As for whether or not Xenoblade is sandbox jrpg, that is something that is a bit more grey area that we could discuss next. It isn't exactly sandbox and it isn't exactly not sandbox by the strictest definition. 


Of course you're making stuff up. It's not that what you brought up count or not. It's that you state as fact what you believe you're seeing in those trailer.

"XV looked like XIII, limited explorable areas and one player with one weapon. X is online multiplayer, sandbox, and much more diverse in combat. if smoothness (which I felt was no smoother than X) is all you're looking for (because you give no examples for impressiveness) then keep swallowing the S-E gravy. "

You're saying XV only has limited explorable areas. Because they're showing characters roaming and fighting in a city? X has that too. What about that open field area, where we see characters on what seems to be a world map? What about Nomura's claim that he's bringing back controllable airships to the franchise after an absence since FF X?  One player with only one weapon? What tells you that you're not allowed to switch characters? More diverse in combat? The hell do you know? We have seen next to nothing of FF XV's battle system, and you're claiming to know it all based on that. Again, you're basing your shit on nothing but assumptions. And I've already made myself clear that I'm not going to do that. You're the one being a hater here, not me.

I'm interested in both games. I loved Xenoblade. And X is my most anticipated Wii U game because of that. You, on the other hand, are the one mindlessly bashing one game to make the other look better. You're the one who has an agenda. 



HyrulianScrolls said:
Xenoblade's combat is awesome to play. You can't really understand it until you play it.


Amen. 



Hynad said:
bigtakilla said:
Hynad said:

Delusional? Seriously? Do you even know what that word means?

Have you even seen this? 

Here, let me quote it for you: 

Tetsuya Takahashi: "The game's battle system is based on the one in Xenoblade Chronicles for Wii, but with even more polish."

So, yes, assuming it will be similar to Xenoblade is pretty proper, since the developer is suggesting this himself.

When it comes to Final Fantasy XV, what the heck does Sony has to do with anything? Seriously... ¬_¬
We haven't got much info about that game. Yes, it's taking them ages to release the game. So what? I should hate S-E for that? I don't share that childish and moronic sense of entitlement many gamers do these days.

Based on the few trailers we've got from FF XV, and contrary to what Bigmouth is trying to force down everyone's throat here, it's not that easy to put the game in a box and pretend to know everything it will offer.

 

@ Bigmouth: You haven't provided a single factual evidence that what you claim about FF XV is remotelly true. So what's there to argue? You're assuming everything you're spouting as facts, but have nothing to go by. Those trailers? Yeah, sure! They give a slight idea of what could be going on. But I don't pass a definite judgment on something based on assumptions. That would be stupid and unreasonable. I'll make an educated judgement once I fully know what I'm dealing with. I invite you to do the same. But based on your behaviour so far, I strongly doubt you can ever do that.

I'm not going to bash something based on whatever suits an agenda I don't even have. You think you've got evidences, but they're nothing but assumptions. Xenoblade is an open world RPG with a sandbox feel. As in: It's open world, sure, as you get to explore its massive world without too much constraints or an overly linear path, but it's not a sandbox. Sandbox means a living "breathing world" that evolves as you play, based on your actions and choices, and in which you can dynamically change some parameters. Hence the "sandbox" appellation. 

Xenoblade's world progression evolves based on key trigger moments in the game just the same as most other well crafted JRPG (read: Not FF XIII). Its delivery is stellar, but it's not a living, evolving, dynamically changing world. It's no Elder Scrolls, GTA or Fallout. But I suspect this distinction of mine will result in us arguing over the semantic rather than on the core of the matter here. Which is: We don't know much about FF XV, and bashing it the way you do just to make X look better is childish at best. One can say a game looks more appealing than an other without making stuff up based on an obvious agenda to justify his preference. Hating on something you don't know is certainly retarded and points to a great deal of ignorance. And as most sane people know, ignorance is the enemy of reason.

jack100:

 
Tangible: Possible to understand or realize.  

I'm showing videos to allow anyone reading an understanding of my point of view. Hynad didn't understand why I said FF XV looked limited so I gave something tangible. Notice Hynad cannot do the same, and instead is rambling on about things without providing anything to back it up whatsoever. 

Hynad:

I'm making stuff up? Lol, show me something that proves I'm wrong. Though I know you can't or it would have already been posted. The "agenda" could be to prove me wrong. 

First you ask me to show you something and when I do you say "That doesn't count!" Lol. 

Yet again with the agenda thing. What else do you believe? Nicki Minaj is illuminati and XBone's Kinect is out to get you. 

As for whether or not Xenoblade is sandbox jrpg, that is something that is a bit more grey area that we could discuss next. It isn't exactly sandbox and it isn't exactly not sandbox by the strictest definition. 


Of course you're making stuff up. It's not that what you brought up count or not. It's that you state as fact what you believe you're seeing in those trailer.

"XV looked like XIII, limited explorable areas and one player with one weapon. X is online multiplayer, sandbox, and much more diverse in combat. if smoothness (which I felt was no smoother than X) is all you're looking for (because you give no examples for impressiveness) then keep swallowing the S-E gravy. "

You're saying XV only has limited explorable areas. Because they're showing characters roaming and fighting in a city? X has that too. What about that open field area, where we see characters on what seems to be a world map? What about Nomura's claim that he's bringing back controllable airships to the franchise after an absence since FF X?  One player with only one weapon? What tells you that you're not allowed to switch characters? More diverse in combat? The hell do you know? We have seen next to nothing of FF XV's battle system, and you're claiming to know it all based on that. Again, you're basing your shit on nothing but assumptions. And I've already made myself clear that I'm not going to do that. You're the one being a hater here, not me.

I'm interested in both games. I loved Xenoblade. And X is my most anticipated Wii U game because of that. You, on the other hand, are the one mindlessly bashing one game to make the other look better. You're the one who has an agenda. 

First off, I never said you couldn't switch characters, I was just saying only 1 person has the ability to play the game. In fact, I know you can control more than one character based off of the trailers. I was just saying it isn't multiplayer. 

You are right that both games have city scenes, the difference is in 3 trailers X has shown how vast the World they have to explore is, in like 7 trailers XV shows the same limited exploration as FFXIII.

More diverse combat is something that was shown. There were numerous battle scenes for both games in the trailers they have to offer.

Last whether or not you want to is fine, but even IF you wanted to you couldn't because there is no proof of anything other than what I said. Lol. 



bigtakilla said:

First off, I never said you couldn't switch characters, I was just saying only 1 person has the ability to play the game. In fact, I know you can control more than one character based off of the trailers. I was just saying it isn't multiplayer. 

You are right that both games have city scenes, the difference is in 3 trailers X has shown how vast the World they have to explore is, in like 7 trailers XV shows the same limited exploration as FFXIII.

More diverse combat is something that was shown. There were numerous battle scenes for both games in the trailers they have to offer.

Last whether or not you want to is fine, but even IF you wanted to you couldn't because there is no proof of anything other than what I said. Lol. 

That's the thing. There are no proof at all. But you try to convince people that you're right. Arguing with a closed minded person like you, who likes to put everything inside a little box based on what he wants to believe, is an exercise in futility. I would express the impressions those trailers gave me. I see a lot of diversity in battle, aiming with guns, teleporting around, an actual real time combat system, free roaming on the world map is shown, dynamic environments, an epic scale, etc... But you're asking for proof. There's no proof! Neither to prove my impression is what the game will end up being, or yours. And that's my point! You don't have proof. You have an impression the game will be a certain way. Nothing more. But you keep going "Wha wha wha. Mommy told me I'm a good boy, so I'm always right about what I think!"...  xD

Also, learn to cut the quote trees. I know forum etiquette is alien to you, but you should consider reading the forum rules. 

Using one of the argument you use to try to diminish FFXV's appeal back at you: Xenoblade is not that great of a game... After all, only one person can play that game. It's not multiplayer. ¬_¬



Hynad said:
bigtakilla said:

First off, I never said you couldn't switch characters, I was just saying only 1 person has the ability to play the game. In fact, I know you can control more than one character based off of the trailers. I was just saying it isn't multiplayer. 

You are right that both games have city scenes, the difference is in 3 trailers X has shown how vast the World they have to explore is, in like 7 trailers XV shows the same limited exploration as FFXIII.

More diverse combat is something that was shown. There were numerous battle scenes for both games in the trailers they have to offer.

Last whether or not you want to is fine, but even IF you wanted to you couldn't because there is no proof of anything other than what I said. Lol. 

That's the thing. There are no proof at all. But you try to convince people that you're right. Arguing with a closed minded person like you, who likes to put everything inside a little box based on what he wants to believe, is an exercise in futility. I would express the impressions those trailers gave me. I see a lot of diversity in battle, aiming with guns, teleporting around, an actual real time combat system, free roaming on the world map is shown, dynamic environments, an epic scale, etc... But you're asking for proof. There's no proof! Neither to prove my impression is what the game will end up being, or yours. And that's my point! You don't have proof. You have an impression the game will be a certain way. Nothing more. But you keep going "Wha wha wha. Mommy told me I'm a good boy, so I'm always right about what I think!"...  xD

Also, learn to cut the quote trees. I know forum etiquette is alien to you, but you should consider reading the forum rules. 

Using one of the argument you use to try to diminish FFXV's appeal back at you: Xenoblade is not that great of a game... After all, only one person can play that game. It's not multiplayer. ¬_¬

Nah, I like the quote trees. 

Also, Xenoblade was great, but X will be vastly better. Just like XV will be good, but X will be vastly better. But that's just our opinions. 

Next I'm not questioning whether or not there will be any combat diversity in XV's combat, it's just for the most part generic ARPG fare. X on the other hand offers more.

Now continue to scour the internet trying to find something that proves me wrong, lol.

Also, it's easy for people to tell you you're right when you are, you should try being right sometime. xD

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