I think MS recognised this and this is why they are trying to turn Xbox into the entertainment box. Trying to appeal to a whole new blue ocean. However I think core gamers are the past, present and future of game consoles and the big 3 need to rededicate themselves to their core market and not be too concerned about gen on gen growth as a whole. But Nintendo failed to recognise that their core market didn't grow last generation, so without reinventing their image, they are stuck in the 20 million range for sales. MS failed to recognise that their core market only grew slightly in the last generation, so by releasing a technologically inferior (to PS4) gaming machine at a higher price (than PS4) their core market has been identified and it's not very big at all. Sony did recognise that their core market is about all that they managed to attract with PS3, and they must be thankful that it's a pretty substantial market. But Sony can't expect PS4 to do any better than PS3 because most of the swing market has left consoles all together. For consoles to be viable in a general sense PS4 really needs to give up a bit of market share to Nintendo and MS, but those companies need to earn that market share. If all 3 consoles could sell in the 50-70 million range then that's viable for everyone, including 3rd party developers. Unfortunately Wii U probably won't get close to that, Xb one might not reach it and PS4 might exceed that range.

Doom thy name is Generation 8.

Supply constrained yes, but not as supply constrained as PS4 obviously

Whattttt???? Did you forget 2007? You couldn't get a wii anywhere! My friend work at gamestop selling wii's for $350. They couldn't be found, both ps4+wii were/are very impressive. You cant say  wii wasnt as supply restraint cuz they werent onn store shelfs for months! (i mean staying on the shelfs for long!)

They must be stockpiling X1 doom threads for the Japan launch.

Honestly PS4 sales are pretty good considering any good PS4 game is available on  the PS3/Xbox 360 too. ( PS3 and Xbox360 had a lot more games exclusive to their gen when they first released).

We're going to have to wait until several 8th gen exclusive games are release to be able to fully judge and compare with last gen.

I'm the first to admit I am a Playstation fan and right now I have no reason at all to upgrade to the PS4. Every game I want is on the PS3 too and Playstation+ keeps giving me good free games for my PS3 every month. Once PS+ starts being better on PS4 than PS3  and that 8th gen exclusive games start coming out we will talk again , but that is at least 6 to 8 months away....

heck just check the adds on the site, they are for games that will release on 7th gen consoles too...

PS4 supply : Less than 300k

Wii supply : More than 400k

So yes, i can say PS4 is more supply constrained because there is less supply

Perfect reply. Now I can start this day with a smile on my face^^

I've seen posts about the 3ds doing bad, and a post saying it did 70,000(which is horrible), but can anyone tell me what it's sales actually were? Because I'm not seeing the actual npd numbers anywhere. What are the official npd 3ds sales numbers, a link please. Or are these numbers being guessed? Where did 70,000 come from? Seriously, I'm just asking. I'm reading through posts, and it seems like it goes from "we don't know the 3ds numbers", to "it sold bad, 70,000".... Somebody, please explain this to me, I appreciate it!

Buuuut USA luuuuvs WiiU. ;(

Oh, so there is no official numbers.... Ok. Pure guess work. But some here use it as fact. Sure. Here ya go: official sales leaked by me, ps4:1 million, x1: 1 million, 3ds:12.... Now that's about as official as the neogaf leaks.... I need to go take a leak, I'll report those official numbers shortly....