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dane007 said:
Kane1389 said:
Aerys said:

Yes, Ryse is much more foggy/blurry ( low draw distance and little corridor), cinematic ( 70% qte) , with no physic, Ryse models reach The Order models( complex clothes and skin textures + characters with  hair and beards and mustaches  ) level only in pure cinematics and The Order seems to have more realistic lighting, so i dont see how you can possibly compare it to the Order in realistic term


Dont forget the superior resolution (900p vs 1080p)

Also,4XMSAA, incredibly rare on consoles, but alas, J Allard is gonna J Allard

Lol @AERYS. AERYS DI DYOU EVEN PLAY The game? If you did then you would knwo theres no QTE. it plays exactly liek batman games. Are you saying that that game has bad fghting mechanices. No physics ,, you sure made my day. The game is filled with physics,, fromteh cloth on marisu body ,, to teh cloth in environemtn on teh ship and many more.. its truly beautiful to see that plus it has larger daw distance. Agin picturs shown does not equal to how it looks like in hgameplay motion. so far all we had it talks but no videos.. so until tehy hsow video it at this moment all just talk .. anyoen can have a screen shot of a cutscene and doctred to mkae it super hi resolution and claimto be in game. It has happened before. 


I played the game yes, and yes, you're right, it's not even a Qte, it's worse because it's not even gameplay thing, just cinematic and no, it's not like batman where you have a short cinematic on the last gameplay move on the last ennemy, with Ryse, 50% of the fights are cinematics, almost on every ennemy to finish him ,a too long cinematic. and fighting mecanics are nowhere as deep as in batman, it's lame compared to batman.

and no, it's not realistic physic sorry, it's nothing like in The Order, it's just pre rendered  physic , even the PS2 was doing that, you dont seem to know the difference.

 

Well, in fact, the order 1886 is meant to be better now than it was on the pictures you saw, we'll see that indeed ;)



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Aerys said:
dane007 said:
Kane1389 said:
Aerys said:

Yes, Ryse is much more foggy/blurry ( low draw distance and little corridor), cinematic ( 70% qte) , with no physic, Ryse models reach The Order models( complex clothes and skin textures + characters with  hair and beards and mustaches  ) level only in pure cinematics and The Order seems to have more realistic lighting, so i dont see how you can possibly compare it to the Order in realistic term


Dont forget the superior resolution (900p vs 1080p)

Also,4XMSAA, incredibly rare on consoles, but alas, J Allard is gonna J Allard

Lol @AERYS. AERYS DI DYOU EVEN PLAY The game? If you did then you would knwo theres no QTE. it plays exactly liek batman games. Are you saying that that game has bad fghting mechanices. No physics ,, you sure made my day. The game is filled with physics,, fromteh cloth on marisu body ,, to teh cloth in environemtn on teh ship and many more.. its truly beautiful to see that plus it has larger daw distance. Agin picturs shown does not equal to how it looks like in hgameplay motion. so far all we had it talks but no videos.. so until tehy hsow video it at this moment all just talk .. anyoen can have a screen shot of a cutscene and doctred to mkae it super hi resolution and claimto be in game. It has happened before. 


I played the game yes, and yes, you're right, it's not even a Qte, it's worse because it's not even gameplay thing, just cinematic and no, it's not like batman where you have a short cinematic on the last gameplay move on the last ennemy, with Ryse, 50% of the fights are cinematics, almost on every ennemy to finish him ,a too long cinematic. and fighting mecanics are nowhere as deep as in batman, it's lame compared to batman.

and no, it's not realistic physic sorry, it's nothing like in The Order, it's just pre rendered  physic , even the PS2 was doing that, you dont seem to know the difference.

 

Well, in fact, the order 1886 is meant to be better now than it was on the pictures you saw, we'll see that indeed ;)


i am looking forward for that day :). i hope its better then those picture due to all the talk hype and if it is then it will be a ggod day for ps4 owners



Aerys said:
dane007 said:
Kane1389 said:
Aerys said:

Yes, Ryse is much more foggy/blurry ( low draw distance and little corridor), cinematic ( 70% qte) , with no physic, Ryse models reach The Order models( complex clothes and skin textures + characters with  hair and beards and mustaches  ) level only in pure cinematics and The Order seems to have more realistic lighting, so i dont see how you can possibly compare it to the Order in realistic term


Dont forget the superior resolution (900p vs 1080p)

Also,4XMSAA, incredibly rare on consoles, but alas, J Allard is gonna J Allard

Lol @AERYS. AERYS DI DYOU EVEN PLAY The game? If you did then you would knwo theres no QTE. it plays exactly liek batman games. Are you saying that that game has bad fghting mechanices. No physics ,, you sure made my day. The game is filled with physics,, fromteh cloth on marisu body ,, to teh cloth in environemtn on teh ship and many more.. its truly beautiful to see that plus it has larger daw distance. Agin picturs shown does not equal to how it looks like in hgameplay motion. so far all we had it talks but no videos.. so until tehy hsow video it at this moment all just talk .. anyoen can have a screen shot of a cutscene and doctred to mkae it super hi resolution and claimto be in game. It has happened before. 


I played the game yes, and yes, you're right, it's not even a Qte, it's worse because it's not even gameplay thing, just cinematic and no, it's not like batman where you have a short cinematic on the last gameplay move on the last ennemy, with Ryse, 50% of the fights are cinematics, almost on every ennemy to finish him ,a too long cinematic. and fighting mecanics are nowhere as deep as in batman, it's lame compared to batman.

and no, it's not realistic physic sorry, it's nothing like in The Order, it's just pre rendered  physic , even the PS2 was doing that, you dont seem to know the difference.

 

Well, in fact, the order 1886 is meant to be better now than it was on the pictures you saw, we'll see that indeed ;)

wat you have perfect timin for eac hit,, you have perfect timing for your countewr,, you have perfect timing for your blocks which you don't have for batman ,, plus you use your analog movement to aim at the enemy you want to hit,, you get rewards for getting prfect timing which is found in batman. On the hardest difficulty settinyou need to do as gettng perfect timing all the way through incliding the execution part ,, determines the amount of health and focus you get. theres none in thelevel. you can't button mash. need to know what you are doing.There even different combo preses you can do . plus you don't need to activate that cinematic on the easier difficulty.. you can just hit them normally. by doing the cinematic execution, you gain extra  bonus that you need for your character. the physics they out in ryse is what you see in crysis games on max settings on pc. they implemented taht iin ryse. this crytek cevat saying that not me. i have uploaded the document of them doing a presentation slide which i would assume have a slide or two detailing their physics. even the lighting is dynamic and quite realisitic. ps2 can't do anything ryse does as ps2 is to weak to do it lol. the cinematic execution is more in tune to AC series and it take s at most 3 secs to see it. its very short. i would say GOW excutions in slow mo are alot longer then those found in ryse.  plus isn't the execution part in ryse the last gameplay  move? plus it only takes 3 secs which is hort right? i am even seeing resemblance based on your comment :D



As i have said teh differences now is minmal which is far better then what happened to ps3. nomatter teh excuses the machine was more powerful then xbox 360 but look significantly worse . nice try though.'


360 had a better gpu and more usable ram,who doesn't know this buy now...


no-way halo reaches kzsf fidelity(and current best looking console game out on any system),the power just isn't there... and with ryse, the order character models already looked better at e3 than ryse imo,and in game pics already show that too. and supposedly a ton of soft physics. I said this before with ryse,stephen hawking legs have more interaction than you get in ryse... plus you factor in the higher res of the order and the aa,there is gonna be some serious sharpness and pop,,, deep down looked better too than ryse,the dragon alone blew away anything I seen in ryse(imo)



larrysdirtydrawss said:
As i have said teh differences now is minmal which is far better then what happened to ps3. nomatter teh excuses the machine was more powerful then xbox 360 but look significantly worse . nice try though.'


360 had a better gpu and more usable ram,who doesn't know this buy now...


no-way halo reaches kzsf fidelity(and current best looking console game out on any system),the power just isn't there... and with ryse, the order character models already looked better at e3 than ryse imo,and in game pics already show that too. and supposedly a ton of soft physics. I said this before with ryse,stephen hawking legs have more interaction than you get in ryse... plus you factor in the higher res of the order and the aa,there is gonna be some serious sharpness and pop,,, deep down looked better too than ryse,the dragon alone blew away anything I seen in ryse(imo)

but the ps3 had the CELL and RSX! which was the majority of excuses as to why ps3 games look btter despite the multiplats looking worse. Again if KZsf was technically great and above ryse then why did ryse ente r teh graphics ategory at dice awards while KZsf didn't even make the cut?? Do explain that. Plus there have been developers who have said ryse ot them is the best lookin game and even GG said that they thought ryse was a high end pc game.  Actually it got alot better. i seen it and even the developers said it.  The pics hav ebeen proven to shown as been bettr looking so have teh reviews. again well doen for trying. sounds liek you are replying to troll . Proof that they use soft physics? Cryengine itelf has oen of the most accurate physics simulation out there and crytek are knwon for their graphics and physics.  nice try though. LOL you are comparing with a game that has been delayed (deep down ) and not even out and a game that has been all talk nad pics that can be altered to a game that was released at launch . Again i have an dmany people have bene foole dwith killzone 2 e3 vfideo which ws claimed as real gameplay footage hence hwy  icaliing it fake. i nver doubt it will look beautiful ,, but how beautiful is another question. i do hope it at least matches those pics. 



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Increase? Aren't the power of the X1 and PS4 set in stone? or is he saying the difference will increase when we see gameplay of The Order?



dane007 : Ryse doesnt use cry engine physic, not at all, nothing can be destroyed except pre rendered stuff, Ryse only uses Cry engine graphic



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

The wording in the title makes no sense. How can a game make the PS4 more powerful?



dane007 said:
larrysdirtydrawss said:
As i have said teh differences now is minmal which is far better then what happened to ps3. nomatter teh excuses the machine was more powerful then xbox 360 but look significantly worse . nice try though.'


360 had a better gpu and more usable ram,who doesn't know this buy now...


no-way halo reaches kzsf fidelity(and current best looking console game out on any system),the power just isn't there... and with ryse, the order character models already looked better at e3 than ryse imo,and in game pics already show that too. and supposedly a ton of soft physics. I said this before with ryse,stephen hawking legs have more interaction than you get in ryse... plus you factor in the higher res of the order and the aa,there is gonna be some serious sharpness and pop,,, deep down looked better too than ryse,the dragon alone blew away anything I seen in ryse(imo)

but the ps3 had the CELL and RSX! which was the majority of excuses as to why ps3 games look btter despite the multiplats looking worse. Again if KZsf was technically great and above ryse then why did ryse ente r teh graphics ategory at dice awards while KZsf didn't even make the cut?? Do explain that. Plus there have been developers who have said ryse ot them is the best lookin game and even GG said that they thought ryse was a high end pc game.  Actually it got alot better. i seen it and even the developers said it.  The pics hav ebeen proven to shown as been bettr looking so have teh reviews. again well doen for trying. sounds liek you are replying to troll . Proof that they use soft physics? Cryengine itelf has oen of the most accurate physics simulation out there and crytek are knwon for their graphics and physics.  nice try though. LOL you are comparing with a game that has been delayed (deep down ) and not even out and a game that has been all talk nad pics that can be altered to a game that was released at launch . Again i have an dmany people have bene foole dwith killzone 2 e3 vfideo which ws claimed as real gameplay footage hence hwy  icaliing it fake. i nver doubt it will look beautiful ,, but how beautiful is another question. i do hope it at least matches those pics. 

http://www.lazygamer.net/general-news/new-the-order-1886-details-surface/

that was a 3second google, there are MANY articles about this.   The Fact that the order is using soft body physics has been known since august.  It sounds like your trying to troll because your constantly asking for sources on basic knowledge. 



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DD_Bwest said:
dane007 said:
larrysdirtydrawss said:
As i have said teh differences now is minmal which is far better then what happened to ps3. nomatter teh excuses the machine was more powerful then xbox 360 but look significantly worse . nice try though.'


360 had a better gpu and more usable ram,who doesn't know this buy now...


no-way halo reaches kzsf fidelity(and current best looking console game out on any system),the power just isn't there... and with ryse, the order character models already looked better at e3 than ryse imo,and in game pics already show that too. and supposedly a ton of soft physics. I said this before with ryse,stephen hawking legs have more interaction than you get in ryse... plus you factor in the higher res of the order and the aa,there is gonna be some serious sharpness and pop,,, deep down looked better too than ryse,the dragon alone blew away anything I seen in ryse(imo)

but the ps3 had the CELL and RSX! which was the majority of excuses as to why ps3 games look btter despite the multiplats looking worse. Again if KZsf was technically great and above ryse then why did ryse ente r teh graphics ategory at dice awards while KZsf didn't even make the cut?? Do explain that. Plus there have been developers who have said ryse ot them is the best lookin game and even GG said that they thought ryse was a high end pc game.  Actually it got alot better. i seen it and even the developers said it.  The pics hav ebeen proven to shown as been bettr looking so have teh reviews. again well doen for trying. sounds liek you are replying to troll . Proof that they use soft physics? Cryengine itelf has oen of the most accurate physics simulation out there and crytek are knwon for their graphics and physics.  nice try though. LOL you are comparing with a game that has been delayed (deep down ) and not even out and a game that has been all talk nad pics that can be altered to a game that was released at launch . Again i have an dmany people have bene foole dwith killzone 2 e3 vfideo which ws claimed as real gameplay footage hence hwy  icaliing it fake. i nver doubt it will look beautiful ,, but how beautiful is another question. i do hope it at least matches those pics. 

http://www.lazygamer.net/general-news/new-the-order-1886-details-surface/

that was a 3second google, there are MANY articles about this.   The Fact that the order is using soft body physics has been known since august.  It sounds like your trying to troll because your constantly asking for sources on basic knowledge. 

i was questioning his quote saying that ryse  he no physics. wanted him to prove that not 1886.