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Panicnausia said:

Career mode is NOT supposed to be that poor at racing....nor that easy................ Other games do ti fine, why can't GT? No damage is also ridiculous in a  sim, smnashing into a wall, bumper car your way to first undermines GT's sim nature. Game needs a lot of work.

The Carrer mode is supposed to go until normal challenge only... if you want more you need to set your own races or play Seasonal Events (they will release soon)... or play online (that's where GT6 outshine the competition).

I agree the cosmetical damage is bad... really bad... it was just added for nothing because nobody care... but the mecanical damage is present and it makes a huge part of how the cars handle during the races... if you smashing into a wall in no time your car won't go over 50mps anymore (some cases it can't even run anymore).

Games needs a lot of work but you complain is something that already exists even in GT5... the only fair point is that the cosmetical damage need to get better (even so the Premium cars have a good cosmetical damage... the standards are really bad).



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ethomaz said:

Panicnausia said:

Career mode is NOT supposed to be that poor at racing....nor that easy................ Other games do ti fine, why can't GT? No damage is also ridiculous in a  sim, smnashing into a wall, bumper car your way to first undermines GT's sim nature. Game needs a lot of work.

The Carrer mode is supposed to go until normal challenge only... if you want more you need to set your own races or play Seasonal Events (they will release soon)... or play online (that's where GT6 outshine the competition).

I agree the cosmetical damage is bad... really bad... it was just added for nothing because nobody care... but the mecanical damage is present and it makes a huge part of how the cars handle during the races... if you smashing into a wall in no time your car won't go over 50mps anymore (some cases it can't even run anymore).

Games needs a lot of work but you complain is something that already exists even in GT5... the only fair point is that the cosmetical damage need to get better (even so the Premium cars have a good cosmetical damage... the standards are really bad).


Career mode is NOT a normal challenge, the AI are just pylons , it is a time trial game and car collecting game, the racing is poor. Most people point out these flaws for a reason. You don't think it is an issue, I do, I have higher standards then this for the biggest simm out there.

 

Agreed, online no other race game touches it, but this was a rant about career mode.

 

Look, I am not saying GT  is terrible, the cars are the best to drive period, and I still like it, but the offline mode needs a total overhaul with real AI, damage, variety and racing.



Panicnausia said:

Career mode is NOT a normal challenge, the AI are just pylons , it is a time trial game and car collecting game, the racing is poor. Most people point out these flaws for a reason. You don't think it is an issue, I do, I have higher standards then this for the biggest simm out there.

 

Agreed, online no other race game touches it, but this was a rant about career mode.

 

Look, I am not saying GT  is terrible, the cars are the best to drive period, and I still like it, but the offline mode needs a total overhaul with real AI, damage, variety and racing.

I undestood now... sorry my complains.

You want they change the Carrer Mode (I didn't played it yet) so the AI is not your issue right now because you can set better AI for other modes in the game... PD needs to remade the Carrer Mode to insert events or races with AI set to highest levels.

But I still think the start of the Carrer Mode need to be easy... after some time it can get better like you said... it is a bad move if PD didn't think like that.

There a lot of flaw in the game... just now my biggest complain is the sound... I need that to be fixed



ethomaz said:

Panicnausia said:

Career mode is NOT a normal challenge, the AI are just pylons , it is a time trial game and car collecting game, the racing is poor. Most people point out these flaws for a reason. You don't think it is an issue, I do, I have higher standards then this for the biggest simm out there.

 

Agreed, online no other race game touches it, but this was a rant about career mode.

 

Look, I am not saying GT  is terrible, the cars are the best to drive period, and I still like it, but the offline mode needs a total overhaul with real AI, damage, variety and racing.

I undestood now... sorry my complains.

You want they change the Carrer Mode (I didn't played it yet) so the AI is not your issue right now because you can set better AI for other modes in the game... PD needs to remade the Carrer Mode to insert events or races with AI set to highest levels.

But I still think the start of the Carrer Mode need to be easy... after some time it can get better like you said... it is a bad move if PD didn't think like that.

There a lot of flaw in the game... just now my biggest complain is the sound... I need that to be fixed

Yes sounds I forgot sounds, PD just seems to be ignoring the legacy issues fans have wanted for years. Credit payout is also brutally slow, worse then gt5....MAkes me wonder if Microtransactions  had a part to play, I hope not.



Panicnausia said:

Yes sounds I forgot sounds, PD just seems to be ignoring the legacy issues fans have wanted for years. Credit payout is also brutally slow, worse then gt5....MAkes me wonder if Microtransactions  had a part to play, I hope not.

Really? The credits are fast than GT5... the Sunday Cup for example give almost twice the credits than GT5.



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Panicnausia said:
adriane23 said:
ethomaz said:

EDGE

"Polyphony has produced a handling and physics model that is unmatched by any other racer, but failed to provide AI competition capable of showcasing it to its fullest."

http://www.edge-online.com/review/gran-turismo-6-review/

7/10

I think maybe they didn't reace with AI set to max (10) because it is a hell of competition.

I think a lot of the complaints about AI come from reviewers only going through the novice part of the main races. It took reviewers weeks to get through GT5 when it came out, but now it seems like they just got the game, went through a few races and modes and called it a day.

I also think a lot of the gripes about engine sounds is due to them leaving the sound setting to Living Room instead of bringing it up to small theatre or large theatre. Collisions noise suck no matter the sound setting though, so they're right about those.

The AI is horrendous as are the sounds, and I am a big GT fan. It has nothing to do with reviewers only going through a few races. Career mode IN GT is really bad.

It's designed to get progressively more difficult, that doesn't mean the AI is bad. Other than the collision sound effects, and the lack of echo in tunnels, you can't say that the sound is bad. If that were the case, the sound in every racing game to date is bad because most don't match the level of authenticity in GT6.



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adriane23 said:
Panicnausia said:
adriane23 said:
ethomaz said:

EDGE

"Polyphony has produced a handling and physics model that is unmatched by any other racer, but failed to provide AI competition capable of showcasing it to its fullest."

http://www.edge-online.com/review/gran-turismo-6-review/

7/10

I think maybe they didn't reace with AI set to max (10) because it is a hell of competition.

I think a lot of the complaints about AI come from reviewers only going through the novice part of the main races. It took reviewers weeks to get through GT5 when it came out, but now it seems like they just got the game, went through a few races and modes and called it a day.

I also think a lot of the gripes about engine sounds is due to them leaving the sound setting to Living Room instead of bringing it up to small theatre or large theatre. Collisions noise suck no matter the sound setting though, so they're right about those.

The AI is horrendous as are the sounds, and I am a big GT fan. It has nothing to do with reviewers only going through a few races. Career mode IN GT is really bad.

It's designed to get progressively more difficult, that doesn't mean the AI is bad. Other than the collision sound effects, and the lack of echo in tunnels, you can't say that the sound is bad. If that were the case, the sound in every racing game to date is bad because most don't match the level of authenticity in GT6.

I can say they sound is bad..because it is....The cars sound horrible, like vacumn cleaners.... The AI does not get better it's the worst I have seen ina  racing game period. No challenge, never fight for position, constantly sticking to the line and breaking whe it is not needed. Almost every race, the car that starts last ends up last and vice versa. Every other game has betetr AI, sounds. The racing is horrible. Gt right now  is ablout collecting cars and time trial, the racing is not good at all.



Turkish said:

Still crying about it hahahaha. I own all the games I rate therefore I can give them whatever score I like, even if you dont agree with it or with my reasoning. Its really low if you're upset about user scores. lol

Turkish about a year ago I believe  you were caught writing fake Xbox reviews slamming the games.  So i'm not sure you own all the games you rate.



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shakarak said:
Turkish said:

Still crying about it hahahaha. I own all the games I rate therefore I can give them whatever score I like, even if you dont agree with it or with my reasoning. Its really low if you're upset about user scores. lol

Turkish about a year ago I believe  you were caught writing fake Xbox reviews slamming the games.  So i'm not sure you own all the games you rate.


I do own them, I shall post a pic of my 360 collection tomorrow



Panicnausia said:
ethomaz said:

Panicnausia said:

How does that help in career mode?? The mode that needs better ai the most??? Just another really poor decision from PD.....A-spec needed better Ai for the last 5 years, yet they improve it in...arcade mode, making carer mode generally bad. I love GT but it  really is frustrating seeing the really bad decisions being made at PD.

The AI in GT6 is not bad... it is good and harder... the Carrer Mode is supposed to be easy... that's didn't allow you to say the AI is terrible or bad.

What our friend are saying the reviewers just played the first Carrer races and wrote "terrible AI" when the AI in the game is way more complex than what they saw... so if you want to challenge the AI for real you need to set it to higuest possible... so you will have everything the AI in GT6 can delievy... you will be surprised.

Reviews should be surprised with the AI too if they invest more time with the game.

Career mode is NOT supposed to be that poor at racing....nor that easy................ Other games do ti fine, why can't GT? No damage is also ridiculous in a  sim, smnashing into a wall, bumper car your way to first undermines GT's sim nature. Game needs a lot of work.


i dont get the whines about carrer mode.

career mode in Forza4 was utter shit.  I gave up on it as its was totally meaningless, there was no accomplishemnt to it.

so what racing sim has this awesome career mode ?