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I am not that a Nintendo fan, but it hurts me to see Nintendo struggle this way. 

I am a faithful sony supporter, but damn, I can't rejoice. We need Nintendo as much as we need Sony, let's admit it. They have strong ip, and very good game for children. Children who will grew up and choose between Sony and Microsoft to further their video games experience. 

Even if I hope they turn third party (what they should do), I consider the Wii U a great and promising console. 

So here is some solution : 

- The Nintendo E shop should be improved with more old nintendo games. For exemple, you should be able to play DS games on Wii U. That's a given and that would be wonderful. Of course, not by putting your game into the Wii U, but by buying them through the eshop. There's a strong bunch of great DS games, DS being one of the most sold console ever. And of course, they should keep the past gem comes to Wii U through the eshop (link to the past, ect...). Don't care about the reason it's not already done, just make it done. Period. 

- Stop releasing Big Nintendo games one by one, release them all at once. Even if that means that we should wait one or two month more. I am Speaking about Zelda U, SSMB, Mario Kart, and Wii fit U. That would make more effects on people and that would also make the Wii U's catalogue look gorgeous and full of gem. 

- Adapt to the demand. Windwaker HD sold pretty well and, KH 1.5 put aside, it's the best remake I ever saw in my life, really. They should keep this kind of shit coming. Majora's mask is asked by a LOT of players, a WWHD looking remake would be dope. Majora's Mask still being one, if not the greatest Zelda game. It's not just about zelda, they're a bunch of successful game that wait to get a proper remake. 

- Release a true Pokemon game in 3D. Let's imagine a Silver/gold 3D remake with graphics... This is something that every children who had played Pokemon wanted. Something ask by a lot of people, that would without a doubt be a fast and easy money maker. The Wii U is able to produce a gorgeous game like this easily. Let's make it done, stop being asshole and idiot Nintendo. Pokemon is maybe the strongest brand in video game, there's absolute no risk to do so. That would make money and sold Wii U like KFC piece of chicken. 

- Keeps the game coming. Nintendo has some cash, burn some. A 3D The World Ends With You remake ? Dope and smell cash. A Jet Set Radio new game ? Dope and smell cash. A nickelodeon TMNT with the kind of quality that nintendo can give to players ? Dope for children and smell cash... They are a lot of possibilities, make them happen and the Wii U will sell. 



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Sleepyprince said:

I am not that a Nintendo fan, but it hurts me to see Nintendo struggle this way. 

I am a faithful sony supporter, but damn, I can't rejoice. We need Nintendo as much as we need Sony, let's admit it. They have strong ip, and very good game for children. Children who will grew up and choose between Sony and Microsoft to further their video games experience. 

 

stopped reading after this.

Are you implying Im a child for playing Mario, Pokemon etc. still?



Its sad that you had to say remake 5 times here. How about they put some of their teams on new IPs? I'm talking about their actual big teams. Instead of another Zelda remake how about they give us a new adventure that brings a new face to the Nintendo name?



I think they need to be a lot faster to spend their cash reserves on getting the right games and the right publishers onto the Wii U. So when Rockstar/EA/Bethesda announce their big games that 'can't run' on the Wii U despite working fine on PS360, Nintendo should turn around and say 'we'll pay for the port'.

They should have bought Atlus, they should buy Capcom when they go belly up, and they should buy back Rare.

Nintendo has huge amounts of cash (in a nutshell, this is why you can ignore anyone who says it'll be the next Dreamcast), but they need to be bullish in how they use it. Microsoft especially relies on 3rd parties for support, Nintendo should be buying their exclusives out from under them. Imagine the shitstorm if something on the level of Borderlands was a Nintendo exclusive.

They should also be sniffing around the great games that didn't have huge commercial success (like Bayonetta). Personally I LOVED Bulletstorm; it had that Nintendo charm to it, whilst also being a bloody, funny, immature FPS. Nintendo should be paying for Epic and People Can Fly to be making Bulletstorm 2 on the Wii U.

Nintendo says they aren't competing with Microsoft and Sony in the console space, but the simple fact is that if Nintendo used their financial grunt to get the 3rd party exclusives, along with their own (and if you don't like Mario Kart/Smash Bros then I'm sorry, but you shouldn't call yourself a gamer), and the build quality of their hardware, then they wouldn't be competing; they'd be annihilating.

Fortunately though, for Sony and Microsoft (whose financials aren't exactly rosy atm) Nintendo aren't that sort of company...



1. Don't release a console a year early that will be underpowered with a pathetic lineup in its first 12 months.
2. When the main focus is the game pad, make games that actually make use of the game pad instead of ignoring the one feature that stands you out from the competition.
3. Get your commercial act together, it's been pathetic. Even the last few ads were cringeworthy and won't do you favours.
4. Even if your commercials are bad, make it clear that the Wii U is a new console. There is still confusion (making the Wii U with the same design as the Wii was just lazy and stupid).
5. Get a new IP that will stand out and give new next gen experiences rather than relying on old IP's.
6. Don't rely on third parties when they've failed you in the past.
7. Don't delay your games when you're already late on them.

Let's see what 2014 will give us.

 

Compare with the Wii:

- Underpowered console but had the main focus on the Wii Mote. The games highlighted that and it worked.

- Great commercial effort. Even though some were cringeworthy they did the job in making the Wii Mote look like the superior way of playing.

- Launch Window had plenty of games and were SPREAD throughout the year. 

- Audiences and developers understood the Wii Mote functionality and instantly invested in that.

- Nintendo pushed their first party lineup in the first year (Wii Sports, Wii Play, WarioWare, Mario Party 8, Metroid Prime 3, Excite Trucks, Super Mario Galaxy, Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess, Mario Soccer, etc...). They didn't wait for third parties and they made sure they had a constant release schedule.

 

They pretty much did the opposite of what made the Wii successful. End of rant. 

 



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ktay95 said:
Sleepyprince said:

I am not that a Nintendo fan, but it hurts me to see Nintendo struggle this way. 

I am a faithful sony supporter, but damn, I can't rejoice. We need Nintendo as much as we need Sony, let's admit it. They have strong ip, and very good game for children. Children who will grew up and choose between Sony and Microsoft to further their video games experience. 

 

stopped reading after this.

Are you implying Im a child for playing Mario, Pokemon etc. still?

well you need to play "mature games" to officially grow up, that's why so many kids chose PS over Nintendo



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT TO THIS THREAD:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=173244


wtf is up with VGChartz today? Resurrecting the same discussions done months ago not once not twice but countless of times.

Doom Threads
How to Fix the Wii U threads



 

 

I wonder what would have happened if Nintendo had released in May/June. If you cut out those initial 6 months of drought that destroyed any sort of momentum from the launch. Think about it:

Launch: NintendoLand, Mario, Lego, Rayman (low numbers may not have caused it to be held back), Wario + all the other launch games
Month 1: Pikmin3
Month 2: Wonderful 101
Month 3: Sonic
Month 4: Windwaker
Month 5: Mario 3D World
Month 6: Wii Fit

I doubt we'd have seen the sort of low numbers that have plagued the Wii U if they'd just waited an extra 6 months to launch, and been able to follow the launch through with the sort of strong games that we've received in the latter half of the year.



ktay95 said:
Sleepyprince said:

I am not that a Nintendo fan, but it hurts me to see Nintendo struggle this way. 

I am a faithful sony supporter, but damn, I can't rejoice. We need Nintendo as much as we need Sony, let's admit it. They have strong ip, and very good game for children. Children who will grew up and choose between Sony and Microsoft to further their video games experience. 

 

stopped reading after this.

Are you implying Im a child for playing Mario, Pokemon etc. still?

Yep. And ? What's the problem ? I have no right to imply/thinks such things and consider them this way ? Is it that a bad thing to have a childish side ? If you think so, you should stop them and try more mature game. Maybe you really think that mario and co are mature game, and that's worth a mocking smile. 

Anyway, make a thread about solution, and it seems you'll always get some internet angry puppy that will screw everything over because he has not been rubbed the right way... 

I consider Mario, Pokemon and a bunch of Nintendo strong ip aimed at children. What's the problem with that ? Sony has a lot of games that are aimed at children too. Puppeteer, Okami HD...
When you're playing children games, you should assume your childish side. It's not a bad thing you know.

Plus, you, especially, seem to react like a child. Clearly. A little child who's been hurt in his little heart. Don't be all reverse inside if I consider you a child when you react like one. 

 



"Month 2: Wonderful 101"

Wonderfail 101, really ? This game is doomed by essence. Nothing to do with Wii U. The game would have bomb even on steam.