hot damn if true!!! this would be a completely dis-service to the people buying a launch/launch-window if MS is keeping this under-wraps.

that sound for me as something which can be fixed very easily but what do i know from programming...

Cboat has been almost entirely wrong since e3.  He was wrong about almost all of his claims on e3 ( for example he said they were going to announce a Prince of Persia reboot)

PS4 Launch in October? wrong No self-publishing on Xbox One? wrong No upclocks? wrong yield issues? wrong

Microsoft Platinum exclusive announced at TGS? Wrong Family Share 60 minute limit? Wrong Xbox One overheating?wrong

Mirror's Edge a Microsoft's E3? wrong Prince of Persia at Microsoft's E3? wrong 3GB limit for Indies? Wrong

I know the guy has been around awhile, since like 2006 or so and has dropped some decent leaks but recently he has been more wrong then right and that is a fact. The beautiful thing about living in the U.S( can't speak for other countries) is that we have the ability to return anything we purchase and get full refunds. I am buying both systems and if either of them have major issues then i can return them. I doubt either system will have any major glaring issues because that would result in a major lawsuit and or recall and they know both know that. How about we give up trying to bash each others system and lets just wait until they come out. If there are issues they still havent rectified they have time to smooth them out and we can all either download a patch when they launch or they will include the patch with all new games much like they do now when they release major dashboard updates. How about we start using some common sense here.

For those of us who were Day One Wii U owners, this doesn't seem like too big of a deal.

then again hot damn!! this would be a complete dis-service to the people buying a PS4 at launch/launch-window if Sony is keeping this under-wraps.

I agree, the Wii U has come a long way since its launch. I'm still waiting for something worth playing tho!!!!!

StrangerX said: Sorry for this but it's probably a lie in neogaf Sony drones that are always trying to make something up about Microsoft and never letting down to keep people on the hating and if you take a moment to see their post you can see a patern as to when they do this and ignore any other good post or negative post against their fav console. Personally  I'm getting both but X1 first for its other more understandable features apart from the gaming but this is what I found of a dev that got tired of it and this is what he posted in regard to this info.   http://doddscientifics.com   MSoft XBO OS Dev on October 28, 2013 at 3:22 am This is 100% false. Yes our OS had this problem, but months ago. I am talking E3 months ago even before the DRM. You’re right when you say we “changed the way it worked” and that did cause problems. DRM removal (your fault and a late decision upstairs due to the numbers) pushed us back even further. It wasn’t as easy as a patch, flipping a switch. It was built into the system. The online check went through more than the games. There were features that had to be redone including our sharing system and some other features we did not get to announce that we plan on adding on. Everyone is working their ass off 24/7 until launch. Yes it’s buggy but after you install the 2GB day one update, the UI will work just fine and also expect the console (if connected) to auto update when you’re offline, or in the background at night. This will happen throught the life cycle and the cloud enables us to patch In things remotely. If games were pushed back you’d hear about that. Actually XBO games have gone gold and are running fine. COD Ghost is 900p, RYSE. 900p, DR3 720p, FORZA 1080p, BF4 900p, KI 720p, ZOO TYCOON 1080p, TITANFALL running from 900-1080 (not finalized of course), Halo 1080p (they’ve been working on this for 2 years now and can fully take advantage like Turn10. ) To be truthful I can’t wait until the 22nd because when our system runs fine, you won’t be very popular in the industry. You and your friends at NeoGaf have some sort of anti Microsoft agenda that we get tired of reading. Also, Titanfall is a Microsoft exclusive. Not Xbox. Respawn can leave EA at any time and we can publish it after the first year. Enjoy. Reply   thecrapgamer on October 28, 2013 at 3:25 am You just sat him down, bravo. Reply

You know it is a joke post, no?

That's what I find funniest.  Somebody posts a rumor to more than likely disparage one console or the other.  The internet rages on it for 1/2 a day until we find out that it afeects both consoles.  Of course, then the problem that was a big deal before becomes "to be expected at launch for any console".  Obviously all launches don't go smoothly (look at Sim CIty from earlier this year).  People are acting like they are standing on the ledge and evertime some new rumor comes out, they have to decide to jump off if its possibly true.

not from "this shill" fyi.

What rumors get debunked? DriveClub? Ohhhh wait.