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"If you're so hung up on prices, just buy used games."

This is not all about price, but about principle and logic.

Like I said, one HD collection is 30$, half of GTAV price. No problem here ? REALLY ? If people do not see the problem here, I begin to understand why the video game industry is so terrible. I guess we all have the industry we deserve.



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Sleepyprince said:
"If you're so hung up on prices, just buy used games."

This is not all about price, but about principle and logic.

Like I said, one HD collection is 30$, half of GTAV price. No problem here ? REALLY ? If people do not see the problem here, I begin to understand why the video game industry is so terrible. I guess we all have the industry we deserve.


LOL yeah right.  There's no logic here.  It's simply "I want free games"

The pricing is usually there so they could make a profit.  These companies don't really owe the consumer anything.



how long are you guys gonna feed him?



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Porcupine_I said:
how long are you guys gonna feed him?


Until he's full.



Sleepyprince said:
"If you're so hung up on prices, just buy used games."

This is not all about price, but about principle and logic.

Like I said, one HD collection is 30$, half of GTAV price. No problem here ? REALLY ? If people do not see the problem here, I begin to understand why the video game industry is so terrible. I guess we all have the industry we deserve.

How is it bad that it's only half the price of something like GTAV? Don't forget that not everyone has played the games when they were prevalent on the PS2, either because they weren't gaming then or they didn't have enough money to buy all of them at the time. Also, it's a hell of a game, as you're not getting some cheap, no-name games in these collections; you're getting games that are known to be quality titles. GTAV hasn't come out yet and you don't know if it will actually be good. With these games, you know what you're getting into.

For example, when the Ratchet Collection was released, it was for $30 and you got the first THREE games for that price. That's $10 a piece for a game that are upgraded to HD, and Up Your Arsenal included its online multiplayer. Do you know what you would have to pay to buy the PS2 copies of the games? Probably around the same price for complete copies, or maybe even more. The problem with PS2 copies of games, especially used, is that they may be scratched to hell, whereas the Bluray copy of the Collection (which has all three games on ONE disc mind you) is going to be harder/nigh impossible (unless you were purposefully doing it) to scratch.



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Sleepyprince said:

They're not charity but their main purpose is to make sure their consumers is satisfied mate. And trying to milk their consumers the best they can is definitely not the way to go. 

Plus, I don't think Sony makes money/sell a lot of those games. From what I know PSN titles sales are very low. A lot of great names have already speak about it. What will they lost by making those games free if they're not selling a lot of them ? Almost nothing.

On the other side, if they make them free, consumers would be happy and some new consumers may come. That's pretty basic and yes that's that simple. 


A companies primary purpose is to make a profit. Now that may be just 1 cent profit depending on how small/private the company is. But a mega corporation like SONY? Their purpose is to make as much profit as they can.

If people are willing to buy HD collections for $30 then they would be _negligent_ not to do that. Now to your point, there is grey area where prices are too high, bussiness practices make the bussiness look bad and turn away customers, etc. Thus a company has to figure out where they need to position themselves, through advertising, customer goodwill, low pricing on some items, gifts (PSN+), etc, to maximize their overall profit.

PSN prices come in large varieties. Some PS1 games average $5.99 with some (FF games) going all the way up to $9.99. PS2 games average $9.99 with some very few going up to $14.99.

Keeping in mind that PSN+ already essentially gives games away for free each month, gives discounts on other games. And yes it is essentially giving these games away because the games normal costs go well beyond the subscription fee. If they give all these PS1/PS2 games away, they risk losing substantial potential profit. Just because they may only sell 100 copies of a single PSN game a month doesn't mean it doesn't add up to a substantial sum for all the games they offer on PSN.

These HD collections are the same. The cost of development for these HD collection is extremely low compared to the originals for sure. It's also guaranteed that some of these are going to sell moderately to very well. I doubt a single one of these collections is going to sell next to nothing. That is a huge potential for profit and very very few people are going to complain loudly about it. Thus its a win for makers of those games.

Any new customers that come along won't come close to the already large pocket of existing customers that may buy these games. SONY only have to provide good _customer_ satisfaction, meaning people who buy things.



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Munkeh111 said:
If people thought they were too expensive, they wouldn't buy them. If people don't buy them, they won't sell them for that price

I think that $5-10 for a very good PS1 classic is a perfectly reasonable price. I did buy the PS1 classics I own in sales (mostly), but I was perfectly prepared to pay a decent price for a 50-60 hour game that I have never played before (FF VII, VIII, IX)

As for the PS2 games, I have never been interested, most of them are available on PC which is probably better for old games

The HD classics are generally reasonably priced, half the price of new games or even less! I got the Jak trilogy for £25 and that is 3 very good games!

Kindgom Hearts 1.5 HD is probably on the steep side for just 1 full game, but it is still half the price of a brand new game


It's my understanding there are 3 games in that collection.



To the op. Is this a joke post? Very few PS One Classics cost $9.99. I don't think that any of them deserve that price, but all PSN titles are priced by the developers, not Sony. Most PS One Classics are $5.99, each Crash Bandicoot game for example, which are pretty reasonably priced in my opinion and can be played on your PS3, Vita, PSP, and more than likely your PS4. So playable either at home or on the go. You also listed San Andreas at being $20, where this game is $15, and while still a ripoff, it's priced by the publisher.

A lot of the PS2 Classics that were rereleased in HD are also on the 360. You're saying Sony, Sony, Sony, but over half of the HD rereleases you've listed are also on the 360. The games have multiple titles within each of them and are almost always released at $40. Don't want to buy them at that price, they'll drop in price fairly quickly. You can get DMC HD Collection for $12 on Amazon or ~$20 anywhere else.

What about Nintendo though? They have their virtual console, the games are much older for each of those games, what are their prices in comparison? Regular prices with premium prices after.

PSX $6 - $7
PS2 $10 - $15(San Andreas)
NES $5 - $6
SNES $8 - $9 - $10(Earthbound)
N64 $10 - $12

There are a lot of good NES and SNES games, hell, there are a lot of good games for any console, but the regular prices on the NES are almost that of the PSX. The regular SNES prices are more than the PSX games and the premium cost is almost that of the PSX premium cost. Earthbound is $10 which is more expensive than any other SNES game and also the same price as the premium PSX games.

The N64 was released alongside the PSX. It was released a year afterwards, but they were the same console generation. A standard game is $10, the same price as a premium title for the PSX while the premium is $12. Whose prices are more of a ripoff?

mutantclown said:


It's my understanding there are 3 games in that collection.

While there are three, only two are playable, the last is a collection of movies.



mutantclown said:
Munkeh111 said:
If people thought they were too expensive, they wouldn't buy them. If people don't buy them, they won't sell them for that price

I think that $5-10 for a very good PS1 classic is a perfectly reasonable price. I did buy the PS1 classics I own in sales (mostly), but I was perfectly prepared to pay a decent price for a 50-60 hour game that I have never played before (FF VII, VIII, IX)

As for the PS2 games, I have never been interested, most of them are available on PC which is probably better for old games

The HD classics are generally reasonably priced, half the price of new games or even less! I got the Jak trilogy for £25 and that is 3 very good games!

Kindgom Hearts 1.5 HD is probably on the steep side for just 1 full game, but it is still half the price of a brand new game


It's my understanding there are 3 games in that collection.

If you look at my post earler up in this thread, I went through it more fully there, but essentially, you get a PS2 game, a PS2 port of a GBA game, then a movie of a DS game