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So?

Concept 75 11.92%
 
Execution 199 31.64%
 
Both 187 29.73%
 
Neither 167 26.55%
 
Total:628
Zero999 said:
oniyide said:
Zero999 said:
oniyide said:

until when though, how much downgrade does a game need before it isnt even the same game anymore? Infamous for PS4 could be downgraded, hell they could just run it on the engine they used for the PS3 ones, but it wont be the same game. IT comes a point where a game just cant be downgraded or else it wont be the same product anymore. IE Force Unleashed PS360 vs. Wii/PS2. 

infamous (or any other ps4/xone) title doesn't show anything that can't be done gameplay wise on ps360. the only difference is graphics and even then it's not that much.

if you say so, the engine they are using isnt even compatible with PS360, not scalable or nothing, so i dont know what youre talking about.

I'm saying the infamous gameplay showed nothing that can't be done on a ps3. the AI and physics were no different and the only difference were graphics.

Its an open world game, they could make an open world game for PS3, duh. But they cant make that open world game. ANd physics are already different the particle affects are way more advanced. The AI is more advanced, you didnt even read up on th game.



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"Its an open world game, they could make an open world game for PS3, duh. But they cant make that open world game. ANd physics are already different the particle affects are way more advanced. The AI is more advanced, you didnt even read up on th game."

He is speaking about what he saw about those games. And if you want one piece of advice : Do not thrust devs about ingame stuff when they're trying to sell you a game.



oniyide said:
Zero999 said:

I'm saying the infamous gameplay showed nothing that can't be done on a ps3. the AI and physics were no different and the only difference were graphics.

Its an open world game, they could make an open world game for PS3, duh. But they cant make that open world game. ANd physics are already different the particle affects are way more advanced. The AI is more advanced, you didnt even read up on th game.

I watched the gameplay video, wich tells me more than any text. the physics and Ai are the same I've seen before and the only difference is graphics.



I think the biggest mistake with the Wii U is the chipset.

People just don't want another PS3/360 machine. I'll grant you even the Wii U is a better hardware than both and an upgrade sure, but not enough of one, certainly not for a machine that's launching *seven* years after the XBox 360.

It needed to be something that absolutely destroys those systems no question and can run every PS3/360 game in 1080p at least.

By choosing to stick with the "we don't make graphics intensive consoles anymore" routine, what Nintendo unwittingly did IMO is actually make the system less unique. A large graphical upgrade + a new touchscreen controller together is probably enough "newness" to get more people to bite.

But another PS3/360 type console (ok, a bit better, but not enough for devs to care) + a relatively moderate "wow factor" controller was a poor recipe to begin with.



Zero999 said:
oniyide said:
Zero999 said:

I'm saying the infamous gameplay showed nothing that can't be done on a ps3. the AI and physics were no different and the only difference were graphics.

Its an open world game, they could make an open world game for PS3, duh. But they cant make that open world game. ANd physics are already different the particle affects are way more advanced. The AI is more advanced, you didnt even read up on th game.

I watched the gameplay video, wich tells me more than any text. the physics and Ai are the same I've seen before and the only difference is graphics.

watching a gameplay video tells you more than an actual in depth look with the devs in addtion to gameplay videos? sounds legit.



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Execution. Did not advertise or communicate well in North American market. Did not realize increase development time of going to HD. Did not find ways to hold third party feet to the fire.



      


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