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J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TheSting said:
What was being said last generation lol?


The PS3 has had more price cuts in the gen than Microsft who only really cut the price of the full model Xbox 360 once. Sony has cut the PS3 by $300 in price over since 2006. Microsoft since 2005 has only majorly dropped it once, and if you bought the core model you paid even more than the person who bought the full model. The PS3 was made to be the all in one box but as much as Sony wanted to have a cheaper price they couldn't they were already financially bleeding because of Kutaragis mistakes, which is why he had to step down. At $600  it was the cheapest Blu Ray player on the market.

Well none of that is really accurate. They dropped the 20GB model 2 times, they dropped the 60GB model 2 times, and they dropped the Elite 4 times.

The amount Sony dropped the price in total is irrelevant when you consider they launched hundreds of dollars more expensive. The fact of the matter is you have 2 consoles still selling well and selling similar amounts so it makes sense that they are priced similar amounts. MS won't be cutting the 360 price while they profit off of it and it still sells well. Just like Sony won't drop the PS3 while they can still make as much money as possible from it.

Both companies introduced a new strategy for pricing on consoles that I think will continue from now on. Every time there was a price drop there was a new hardware bundle that was slightly more expensive. So while technically you got the better hardware for less money if you waited, a lot of this gen it hasn't seemed like either console really got a good old fashioned price cut.


MS was screwing with people...they've temporarily cut prices where it seasonally mattered and they did it last Black Friday as well. They also used lower prices to clear the old models of the 360 down to $249 I believe to make room for the new Xbox 360 Slims. Where I must appologize to you for my mistake is where I said the 360's price had dropped only once. What I meant to say is the 360 has only technically dropped $100 over eight years. These are the launch prices of the 360 and Microsoft's current price is $299 unless you enter a two year contract for the 360 which by now is pointless.

DateLocationXbox 360 System PriceXbox 360 Core System Price
November 20, 2005 Japan JP¥39,795 JP¥29,000
November 22, 2005[7] Canada
United States
CD$499.99
US$399.99[8]
CD$399.99
US$299.99
December 2, 2005 Eurozone
Norway
Sweden
UK
Latvia
Finland
Ireland
Portugal
€399.99
NOK3395,-
SEK3995:-
£279.99
Ls320.00
€409.99
€409.99
€409.99
€299.99
NOK2595,-
SEK2995:-
£209.99
Ls240.00
€309.99
€309.99
€309.99
February 2, 2006 Colombia
Mexico
COP$1,200,000
MXN$4999
COP$900,000
MXN$3999
February 24, 2006 South Korea 419,000 339,000
March 16, 2006 Hong Kong
Singapore
Taiwan
China
HK$??
SG$660.00
NT$13888
HK$2,340.00
SG$535.00
NT$10888
March 23, 2006 Australia
New Zealand
A$649.95
NZ$799.99
A$499.95
NZ$499.95
July 7, 2006 Chile CLP.329.990 CLP.259.990
September 25, 2006 India Rs.23,990 Rs.19,990
September 29, 2006[9] South Africa R3699 R2699
November 3, 2006 Czech Republic
Poland
CZK11900.00
1699.00
CZK8999.00
1299.00
December 1, 2006 Brazil R$1,799 (~US$899) not released
February 10, 2007[10] Russia
RUB15,699 (US$640) RUB10,999 (US$450)
February 26, 2008[11] Peru S/.2249.00 (US$762) not released
October 28, 2008[12] United Arab Emirates
AED1,799 (US$490) not released

Sony stands competitively at $299 with more games than the Xbox. They've given true price cuts over the years and not run around the issue of the unfair price even though they were still outselling the 360 and slowly catching up the steady price cuts helped them get to where they are today. At this rate Sony couldnt afford to bleed financially like they did with the PS3, so they played it smart and hired someone who could make the best console they could for $400. They are still taking a financial hit, but nothing compared to the PS3, good lord. They will get a small profit early on and then reap the benefits as time progresses far more than the PS3.



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ItNetPro said:

You have a good point. If you judge Microsoft by for instance how much the founder gives away and how much the company itself contributes to charity then Microsoft if FAR from greedy. They have a mentality of charitable giving that comes from the top down. Its been a few years but I once read a business story (I will provide a link to if I can find it) just home much money the company and employees contribute to various charities around the word. Much more then Apple at that time and most other companies on the planet. I never looked into how much Sony gives to charity. I never really see their names sponsoring anything state side but I would venture a guess they are much more greedy then Microsoft.

Will try to dig up some figures...

;)


Bill Gates is not Microsoft. The charitable nature of Bill Gates is attributed to his father whom is a rich liberal man who gives back to society on a daily basis and deals with congress on a daily basis on liberal affairs and jobs. 



I am not Microsoft´s Customer



If Sony ain't all about the money, then why are they charging for PS4's online?



PeterSilenced said:
Well sony is selling their console in Europe for 524,51 dollars and ms for 655,64. So yeah they both love their consumers especially those who have euro and pounds as their currency. Just for curiosity why can´t they do convertions? seriosly...399,99 dollars is 305,01 euros!


Not this again... the US price doesn't include tax, and there's some additional costs to selling something in Europe. Sony will get more money from a console sold in the US than one sold in Europe.

Just think 1$ = 1€ and be happy it's not more.



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Mad55 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TheSting said:
What was being said last generation lol?


The PS3 has had more price cuts in the gen than Microsft who only really cut the price of the full model Xbox 360 once. Sony has cut the PS3 by $300 in price over since 2006. Microsoft since 2005 has only majorly dropped it once, and if you bought the core model you paid even more than the person who bought the full model. The PS3 was made to be the all in one box but as much as Sony wanted to have a cheaper price they couldn't they were already financially bleeding because of Kutaragis mistakes, which is why he had to step down. At $600  it was the cheapest Blu Ray player on the market.

Lol Come on you can't defend this one man. 

Yes he can. He's part of the loyalty free gaming movement.



S.T.A.G.E. said:


The PS3 has had more price cuts in the gen

Solely to boost sales.

If sales were stronger we wouldn't have seen so many price cuts. In fact, I recall Sony raising the price in spite of making a newer slimmer model that was likely cheaper to produce.

Clearly Sony was concerned about the consumers when they pulled that crap.



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Nsanity said:
If Sony ain't all about the money, then why are they charging for PS4's online?


Microsoft pressured Sony into it. We were talking about this a while back how Sony would eventually start charging and they didnt. PSN+ was the creation that came out of finding an alternate way to make people pay and even Microsoft is taking that now. They aren't locking people out of complete online experience like MS is doing, they are just makingt he multiplayer a PSN+ Perk.



can't people wait for a Vita pricedrop first before they make an article like that.. next Vita pricedrop will be because Sony loves us..



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

"Consumers were so outraged that Microsoft did a 180 on mechanics that its engineers had worked tirelessly on."

Are you kidding me? Consumers demanded something, Microsoft listened. That's a good thing. Don't these people also complain about these corporations not listening to them? Talk about irony.