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Hi friends, I know this is a very controvresial title, and I understand your trepidation.

However, I believe this is the truth and it could not have been told better than by this Youtuber.

Take a look.

Here is the write-up, in progress.

 

WiiU not going to have 3rd party parity with PS4XB.

  No CoD: Ghosts

  Other 3rd party multiplats ditching U.

  PS4, XB, PC will be where gamers play multiplats.

U will shine with exclusives.

Iwata/Reggie interview:

Iwata: Need to regain momentum of Wii U in marketplace

Establish examples of successful 3rd party WiiU SW titles.

Focus to regain HW sales momentum towards end of year.

Then establish succesful 3rd party WiiU titles.

Belives in importance of 3rd party support.

Willing to change current situation.

 

Nintendo can only do so much more than money-hatting, which they can't do.

Even if big 3rd party games came to U scaled down, they won't sell on the U.

Games like Rayman, or kingdom hearts could sell better on the U than on the twins. (Oddly KH3 not coming to U).

 

Many compare U to GC, but it's not the same strategy at all. GC had best parity of Multiplats since the SNES. N64 went with cartridges, Wii wasn't powerful enough.

 

Cube had: Tony Hawk, Madden, PoP, SC, Splinter Cell.

Wii had: Guitar Hero, Just Dance, but not much more parity. Had CODs and Maddens too but were Wii-ified versions.

 

Cube tried to mimic the other systems in power and standard controller and did the worst of Nintendo consoles, so when Nintendo does their own thing they tend to do better (notwithstanding SNES).

Not saying that Nintendo shouldn't get as many multiplats as they can (e.g. Watch Dogs, AC4, awesome) and can see games like Rayman do really well on the U.

BUT

Thinks where Nintendo's strenght lies is in exclusives. E.g. collaborations with companies like Platinum (Bayo 2, W101). Nintendo is funding the games but they are not made by Nintendo. Nintendo owns W101 but P+ is making it. These games are not making it to the other systems, other examples are Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem.

Wise for Nintendo to pay money to get these games but they remain exclusive to their console. People will say Bayo and W101 will not sell well or sell consoles. Maybe they are right, games by themselves won't but what about 2 more games like that, what about a dozen games like that over the system's lifespan? The advantage WiiU has is that it will be the cheapest console over the span of the generation, when it's down to 199$, if WiiU has close to a dozen exclusive 3rd party games, that makes it unique, it makes core gamers say "wow, it actually has a library of games I want to play now and it's affordable". But if it had the exact same offering as the other two systems nobody would get the games on it except the die-hard Nintendo fans. 



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I thought it was the bane of Nintendo, but I'll give it a watch.



http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/profile/92109/nintendopie/ Nintendopie  Was obviously right and I was obviously wrong. I will forever be a lesser being than them. (6/16/13)

Aw, I'm flattered, Happy. :)

BTW, when I said, "Paint in the same light" it was a screw-up as I combined "in the same light" with "paint with the same brush". :/

Oh well, perhaps I've coined a new term? :P



archbrix said:
Aw, I'm flattered, Happy. :)

BTW, when I said, "Paint in the same light" it was a screw-up as I combined "in the same light" with "paint with the same brush". :/

Oh well, perhaps I've coined a new term? :P

I just completely agreed with you and it made me want to start a team-speak group of vgchartzers to talk about stuff like this.

We have a lot of smart and knowledgeable people here.



happydolphin said:
archbrix said:
Aw, I'm flattered, Happy. :)

BTW, when I said, "Paint in the same light" it was a screw-up as I combined "in the same light" with "paint with the same brush". :/

Oh well, perhaps I've coined a new term? :P

I just completely agreed with you and it made me want to start a team-speak group of vgchartzers to talk about stuff like this.

We have a lot of smart and knowledgeable people here.

I appreciate that.

Also, I want to apologize for the less than perfect audio quality; I hope the mic I picked up improves that for future videos.



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archbrix said:
Aw, I'm flattered, Happy. :)

BTW, when I said, "Paint in the same light" it was a screw-up as I combined "in the same light" with "paint with the same brush". :/

Oh well, perhaps I've coined a new term? :P


You make good video. Me like.



Maybe their strategy of "refocusing on the core" is to snag up sequels and niche games that no one else want to fund.

Like more partnerships with Sega for their "dead" franchises. (Nintendo seems to have a knack for bringing back IPs from the dead)

Imagine the day when Shenmue 3 or Valkyria Chronicles 4 is Nintendo exclusive. The salt will be premium grade. Cured over years of waiting.



http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/profile/92109/nintendopie/ Nintendopie  Was obviously right and I was obviously wrong. I will forever be a lesser being than them. (6/16/13)

third party exclusives like Bayonetta2, W101 and Sonic LW do matter. but the guy in the video exagerates on other aspects like saying the multiplatforms wouldn't sell much if they got released. Just MAYBE a multi would sell better on ps4 or xone vs wii u considering an equal installed base but what remains true is that it would sell a respectable amount on wii u, it doesn't have to outsell others.

it's only simple logic that people buy games for the platform they own. if each console has it's base then each will get a chunk of multiplats sales.



Zero999 said:

third party exclusives like Bayonetta2, W101 and Sonic LW do matter. but the guy in the video exagerates on other aspects like saying the multiplatforms wouldn't sell much if they got released. Just MAYBE a multi would sell better on ps4 or xone vs wii u considering an equal installed base but what remains true is that it would sell a respectable amount on wii u, it doesn't have to outsell others.

it's only simple logic that people buy games for the platform they own. if each console has it's base then each will get a chunk of multiplats sales.

But if that were true, why did the sales of multiplats decrease over the course of the Wii's lifetime?



happydolphin said:
Zero999 said:

third party exclusives like Bayonetta2, W101 and Sonic LW do matter. but the guy in the video exagerates on other aspects like saying the multiplatforms wouldn't sell much if they got released. Just MAYBE a multi would sell better on ps4 or xone vs wii u considering an equal installed base but what remains true is that it would sell a respectable amount on wii u, it doesn't have to outsell others.

it's only simple logic that people buy games for the platform they own. if each console has it's base then each will get a chunk of multiplats sales.

But if that were true, why did the sales of multiplats decrease over the course of the Wii's lifetime?

because wii barely had any multiplatform titles. and when it had it was too unoptmized and half assed to even be worthy. when third's give a damn the games easily sell their 500k - 1M units like the RE umbrella nd darkside chronicles. The fact remains that multis will sell respectably on nintendo platforms given the product is good (released simultaneosly with others, decent port,...).

and we already know wii u can handle Ps4/Xone ports with irrelevant graphical difference.