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mii-gamer on 12 June 2013
NintendoPie said:
mii-gamer said:


this is where nintendo fucked up real bad. Wasted their head start. Next year is already confirmed to be amazing. Just need to survive 6-12 months of wii u hate until then

Nintendo has several games coming out this year. Pikmin 3, New Super Luigi U, Wii Play U, Wii Fit U, Super Mario 3D World, The Wonderful 101, and more. Even if these games don't appeal to most "hardcore" gamers, the Wii U still should do good this year.

Awesome list getting all of them, but half the year was pretty bare bones don't you reckon? The draughts have annoyed me greatly. In my oppinion, Nintendo could have done a better job of getting the one up on the competition with the years start. Lukily, they had the headstart to iron out some of the problems before the battle begin. Hopefully these games will kickstart the motor.



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RenCutypoison on 12 June 2013
BasilZero said:
RenCutypoison said:


No need for more color, there is pikachu =D 

 

No...just no....>.>

I would take a custom blaziken one n___n


A slime (Dragon Quest one) would be amazing too.

More seriously, lack of colours never killed a console. I mean, I've hardly ever seen any PS2/PS3 other than black. Handeld is different tough, buit the same goes for PSP



NintendoPie on 12 June 2013
mii-gamer said:

Awesome list getting all of them, but half the year was pretty bare bones don't you reckon? The draughts have annoyed me greatly. In my oppinion, Nintendo could have done a better job of getting the one up on the competition with the years start. Lukily, they had the headstart to iron out some of the problems before the battle begin. Hopefully these games will kickstart the motor.

Of-freaking-course I think they had a horrible head-start! It was as dry as the Sahara Desert. But, they are working on it. And, even if these games might be a little while away, that's all that maters. (As long as they keep it up.)



kopstudent89 on 12 June 2013
Hynad said:

Super Mario 3D World doesn't have that spark that Galaxy has. It looks ok, and it will most likely be really fun (All 3D Mario games are) but it didn't have anything really special that screamed "Wii U is amazing!".

Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze shall be just as fun as Returns, but it's not a title that serves to differentiate the console from anything that came before... More of the same, some would say. I am fine with sequels of great games, and I wouldn't have any problem with that game if the console didn't need some actual games that set the Wii U truly apart from the rest, even from the Wii.

Mario Kart 8. Eight. It will be fun, polished and all that... But it basically suffers from the same sentiment as DKCTF... No differentiating factor here.

Wind Waker HD... It looks as good as ever. But we've already played that game years ago. People who enjoyed that game on the Cube will most likely pick it up (I sure will), but again... Nothing new. Nothing that screams "the Wii U is where it's at".

X. Yes, X. The only game from that Direct that actually deserves praise. It looks stunning, fun and extremely promising. Sadly though, it caters to a niche and won't help sell the console all that much.

I know I'm forgetting some games... Smash? Yeah... that series is evolving at baby steps at best. Fun, but as far as I'm concerned, only in small doses.

Yes, this Direct was underwhelming. No new Metroid, no real new Zelda for the Wii U. No new creative IPs.

But I wasn't expecting much from them. All in all, a good chance X was present. That game looks awesometacular.

Exactly my thoughts. I was really waiting for a new Galaxy-esque Mario game. I remember how I felt after seeing the first Galaxy game on the Wii, adn it was pure magic. This looks solid, it looks fun, but it looks more like an expanded 2D game. It's very similar to the 3DS which was one of my favourite mario games but that's the thing, it looks like SM3D Land HD. It looks fun, but it doesn't have the feel of a console game and that in my opinion is so so disappointing. I honestly hope they do release a big MArio game, but getting one every year is starting to get monotonous and I doubt they will release another Mario game which is frankly so disappointing.

It's such a shame as well, SMG and SMG2 are one of the best games of last gen, and I have always tried to imagine how they'd look in Hd and how a stronger system can take MArio to another level, yet they've managed to somehow downgrade it. 

I honestly hope I'm wrong, and I have to admit the game is not as bad as my initial impressions were. It genuinly looks fun, but you'd expect Nintendo to go all out and design a fantabulous magical huge 3D Mario game on the Wii U, I hope that happens. In all honesty I'm just glad they're doing so well with the 3DS.



kopstudent89 on 12 June 2013
HyrulianScrolls said:

As a Nintendo fanboy their E3 showing satisfied me, but I feel like it didn't succeed overall in showing why anyone beisdes the diehard Nintendo fans should get a Wii U. The two big disappointments for me were firstly, not having a fully 3D Mario platformer. Seriously a 2d/3d hybrid like 3D Land for the Wii U makes zero sense. Especially with NSMB2 and NSMB U still being relatively new games. The last thing Nintendo needed was a 2d Mario of any kind. And yeah I know it's not strictly 2D, but it's not strictly 3D either, which is what it needed to be. Those are always the Mario games that really show off what their system hardware is capable of. I don't feel like 3D World will do that whatsoever for the Wii U. It will very likely be an excellent game, but it also looks like it could easily be done on the 3DS, and would be a better fit for that system. The 2d/3d hybrid worked so well for 3D Land because of the stereoscopic 3D of the 3DS, which Wii U doesn't have. So that was a massive mess up on Nintendo's part in my opinion. 3D Mario is always their chance to show what their home console is really capable of, and I think they missed that chance with 3D World.

Second big disappointment was DKC Tropical Freeze being Retro's big WIi U project we've heard so much about the last year or so. Kinda tying back to 3D World, does anyone really need another 2d Nintendo platformer right now? Yeah they're great, but they're just becoming sooo over-saturated. And a DKC sequel was always last on my list for what I hoped Retro was working on. Even Prime 4 would have been a lot more exciting and fresh since its been awhile now for that series.

Was most happy with X, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros, and surprisingly Mario Kart 8, which actually looks like a much needed change of pace for the series. The whole Mario Kart Galaxy feel definitely has me intrigued.


Definitely right, I think 2D platformers are much more suited to handhelds even though I love them. 3D Land just looks like it could be ported to the 3DS, it doesn't look like a Wii U experience. Strange that Sony struggle to make handheld games on the Vita and now Nintendo seem lost in the console universe. Very uninspired imo. It's sad as well, if they made a huge Mario game I bet none of this negativity would've happened. It really looks.. meh. I'm still disappointed in that a lot especially after they produced a brilliant game in SMG 2 just 3 years ago. Really boggles me!!



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RenCutypoison on 12 June 2013
BasilZero said:
RenCutypoison said:


A slime (Dragon Quest one) would be amazing too.

More seriously, lack of colours never killed a console. I mean, I've hardly ever seen any PS2/PS3 other than black. Handeld is different tough, buit the same goes for PSP


Actually would rather have a black one, my NDS lite is black lol.

But dat FE Awakening and MH/Zelda ones with the designs look good n__n

Wish they would release at least a new bundle.


Print a sticker for yourself. If you want my gf can design you one for 20$ lol



Gamerace on 12 June 2013
Hynad said:

Super Mario 3D World doesn't have that spark that Galaxy has. It looks ok, and it will most likely be really fun (All 3D Mario games are) but it didn't have anything really special that screamed "Wii U is amazing!".

Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze shall be just as fun as Returns, but it's not a title that serves to differentiate the console from anything that came before... More of the same, some would say. I am fine with sequels of great games, and I wouldn't have any problem with that game if the console didn't need some actual games that set the Wii U truly apart from the rest, even from the Wii.

Mario Kart 8. Eight. It will be fun, polished and all that... But it basically suffers from the same sentiment as DKCTF... No differentiating factor here.

Wind Waker HD... It looks as good as ever. But we've already played that game years ago. People who enjoyed that game on the Cube will most likely pick it up (I sure will), but again... Nothing new. Nothing that screams "the Wii U is where it's at".

X. Yes, X. The only game from that Direct that actually deserves praise. It looks stunning, fun and extremely promising. Sadly though, it caters to a niche and won't help sell the console all that much.

I know I'm forgetting some games... Smash? Yeah... that series is evolving at baby steps at best. Fun, but as far as I'm concerned, only in small doses.

Yes, this Direct was underwhelming. No new Metroid, no real new Zelda for the Wii U. No new creative IPs.

But I wasn't expecting much from them. All in all, a good chance X was present. That game looks awesometacular.

My thoughts exactly.  They all look like fun, but my gaming time is (severely) limited and I haven't finished SMG, or DKCR and since there's really nothing 'new' here, there's no reason to rush out to get a WiiU this year.    I still play Mario Kart and Brawl at times and the new versions look great but not really different enough (so far).  What will ultimately sell me on those is superior online (Wii's is terrible for both titles) and my friends also getting a WiiU for them so I have people to play against other than random stranger.   Otherwise I'm fine replaying Wii's versions.     Although I gotta try fighting with Wii Fit Trainer, that's too funny.

And then there's the gamepad - the WiiU's distinquishing feature.  Not seeing anything in any of these titles that says, 'you've got to try this with the gamepad'.  So be fair, SMG's and Brawls use of motion were minimal (but both had other new exciting features - gravity/worlds and online/3rd party chartacters respectively) but motion on Kart, Metroid, Zelda:TP were a big deal and something to get excited about.  I've yet to see a single Nintendo game on WiiU that creates that sort of interest/excitement in the gamepad's features (yes including NintendoLand).



 

carlos3189 on 12 June 2013

Well, in my opinion Nintendo had an amazing show! We not only got their biggest franchises, they also showed Bayonetta 2 and Wonderful 101, the stunning X, third party games COMING THIS YEAR, and the reveal of DK... It was the light after a whole day of shooters and racing games...



Cobretti2 on 12 June 2013

it is not that they are out of touch it is that they were EXPECTING 3rd parties to signup, When they didn't they reacted quickly with subpar games like 3D mario to try and quickly get something up to feel the void. It would still appear they are hoping third parties sign up. They really need to accept they won't unless there is money involved.

Instead they should have tried to get more 3rd party exclusives via funding projects like they have with platinum to create new IPs to fill the gaps (i.e, FPS, racing sim, sports, fighters) third party left with mature titles. Also create some new studios.



 

 

Busted on 12 June 2013

Well Bayonetta 2 was my 2nd best game of the E3, i jumped of happiness when i saw that gameplay, all nintendo games looked great it's just what i said before E3a: --everyone is excited but nintendo's showing will feel disapointing because everyone already knows what games they are showing it doesn't matter if the games look great, they have no ''shock'' factor-- said and done. I loved E3 overall and like i explained in another thread i think nintendo is in a great position they just need to play the right notes.