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echoesfromthepast on 09 May 2013

Is triluminos a similar situation to blast processing? Because it sounds like it.



     
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Netyaroze on 09 May 2013
echoesfromthepast said:
Is triluminos a similar situation to blast processing? Because it sounds like it.


After quick research it might be actually useful, read my previous post. But its not a plus for people who don't care that much about picture quality I guess. Its more of a plus for videophiles not the average customer.



thewayofthepath on 09 May 2013
darkknightkryta said:
hinch said:
darkknightkryta said:
I'll never understand how people can market "More colours" when you get all colours from Red, Green and Amber.

Of course you can. A wider colour gamut means it can produce a wider range of colours than that of the standard sRGB (found in most consumer grade displays), thus being more accurate.

But there is no colour those 3 can't produce.

Red, Green, Amber?  I'm going to assume you mean Red, Green, Blue, which is what additive display technologies use.

RGB is used because it more or less divides the visible spectrum into equal parts, allowing it to create *most* of the colours that humans can see.  Except human eyes don't quite work like that:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Cone-fundamentals-with-srgb-spectrum.svg

More sort of purple-blue, green-yellow, and orange.  This discrepenancy between our eyes and RGB additive techniques does result in colours that your monitor/TV cannot create.

I once found a persistence of vision image online that allowed one to see a colour shade that RGB cannot create.  If I find it, I'll post it.



JazzB1987 on 09 May 2013
Carl2291 said:
Hundreds of developers are falling over eachother to get this tech. Imagine it. All those grey, boring FPS games with more grey!

I loled


WELL FINALLY MORE



What does this mean?

SEX GAMES CONFIRMED!

P.S. PS4 was never called Orbis it was called Greystation (that was a bad one)



Viper1 on 09 May 2013
Netyaroze said:
pezus said:
Netyaroze said:
PS4 to have Triluminos ? Who said that ? I can't see the article mentioning it.

Triluminos support. Near the end


Ok I see, nice feature.

 

@darkknightkryta 

 

I looked it up real quick so no guarantees its correct. White LEDs are actually blue/yellow the backlight messes with the colors. Sony implemented some kind of quantum dotted sheet between Display/Backlight. With a Triluminos source it can compensate for the imperfect white Backlight and mix more colors appearently it beats every LCD TV regarding colors and closes the gap between LCD and OLED regarding colors alot.

 

Neat to have in a console, could have influenced my decision pro Sony TV if I would need a TV. 

Actually, the article is talking about Sony's Xperia smartphone, not the PS4. 

It should also be noted that this is a displ;ay technology and has nothing to do with the source device itself.  This won't be in the PS4 unless the PS4 comes with a display on it.



The rEVOLution is not being televised

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Netyaroze on 09 May 2013
Viper1 said:
Netyaroze said:
pezus said:
Netyaroze said:
PS4 to have Triluminos ? Who said that ? I can't see the article mentioning it.

Triluminos support. Near the end


Ok I see, nice feature.

 

@darkknightkryta 

 

I looked it up real quick so no guarantees its correct. White LEDs are actually blue/yellow the backlight messes with the colors. Sony implemented some kind of quantum dotted sheet between Display/Backlight. With a Triluminos source it can compensate for the imperfect white Backlight and mix more colors appearently it beats every LCD TV regarding colors and closes the gap between LCD and OLED regarding colors alot.

 

Neat to have in a console, could have influenced my decision pro Sony TV if I would need a TV. 

Actually, the article is talking about Sony's Xperia smartphone, not the PS4. 

It should also be noted that this is a displ;ay technology and has nothing to do with the source device itself.  This won't be in the PS4 unless the PS4 comes with a display on it.


Yes I thought so first too. But the article itself mentiones PS4 and for Triluminos to work perfectly you need a signal that can adress the additional color depth or else it won't work properly and it just switches to classical RGB. 



darkknightkryta on 09 May 2013
thewayofthepath said:
darkknightkryta said:
hinch said:
darkknightkryta said:
I'll never understand how people can market "More colours" when you get all colours from Red, Green and Amber.

Of course you can. A wider colour gamut means it can produce a wider range of colours than that of the standard sRGB (found in most consumer grade displays), thus being more accurate.

But there is no colour those 3 can't produce.

Red, Green, Amber?  I'm going to assume you mean Red, Green, Blue, which is what additive display technologies use.

RGB is used because it more or less divides the visible spectrum into equal parts, allowing it to create *most* of the colours that humans can see.  Except human eyes don't quite work like that:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Cone-fundamentals-with-srgb-spectrum.svg

More sort of purple-blue, green-yellow, and orange.  This discrepenancy between our eyes and RGB additive techniques does result in colours that your monitor/TV cannot create.

I once found a persistence of vision image online that allowed one to see a colour shade that RGB cannot create.  If I find it, I'll post it.

Yes, you're right.  I forgot green and red made amber.  I just recall in my physics class that all colours are based off of those, hence why I don't understand the need for "better" colours because those 3 spectrums of light give you all colours.



Viper1 on 09 May 2013
Netyaroze said:
Viper1 said:

Actually, the article is talking about Sony's Xperia smartphone, not the PS4. 

It should also be noted that this is a displ;ay technology and has nothing to do with the source device itself.  This won't be in the PS4 unless the PS4 comes with a display on it.


Yes I thought so first too. But the article itself mentiones PS4 and for Triluminos to work perfectly you need a signal that can adress the additional color depth or else it won't work properly and it just switches to classical RGB. 

Foudn it.  You're right, it does address the PS4.  But I don't see why.   The color depth is actually nothing but standard RGB.   The problem is that most displays produce white via  very poor method.   All this does is enable a better method of white display.  It doesn't matter what the source device is so long as it can output RGB.

That additional color gamut you see in the pic isn't additional color from the source unit but adidtional color the display can show. 

In other words, most displays srhink the color gamut of RGB itself so it doesn't produce the full range the source device is sending.  This display tech just allows more of that of that RGB signal to be properly shown.



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Netyaroze on 09 May 2013
darkknightkryta said:

Yes, you're right.  I forgot green and red made amber.  I just recall in my physics class that all colours are based off of those, hence why I don't understand the need for "better" colours because those 3 spectrums of light give you all colours.


Well in theory yes, but technology is not perfect.

 No TV can mix the perfect color yet due to limitations of the light wavelengths generated by LEDs (OLEDs) and the videosignals today do not support life like color depth, the information for perfect colors are just not transmitted to the TV. Just few formats carry all the information. A  Bluray for example is missing color depth even if the source material was recorded at native colors but its not transmitted on the disk and the signal itself from player to TV can not carry the information aswell. 

 

Basically TVs today are just Color Ready not Full Color.

 

 



Netyaroze on 09 May 2013
Viper1 said:
Netyaroze said:
Viper1 said:

Actually, the article is talking about Sony's Xperia smartphone, not the PS4. 

It should also be noted that this is a displ;ay technology and has nothing to do with the source device itself.  This won't be in the PS4 unless the PS4 comes with a display on it.


Yes I thought so first too. But the article itself mentiones PS4 and for Triluminos to work perfectly you need a signal that can adress the additional color depth or else it won't work properly and it just switches to classical RGB. 

Foudn it.  You're right, it does address the PS4.  But I don't see why.   The color depth is actually nothing but standard RGB.   The problem is that most displays produce white via  very poor method.   All this does is enable a better method of white display.  It doesn't matter what the source device is so long as it can output RGB.

That additional color gamut you see in the pic isn't additional color from the source unit but adidtional color the display can show. 

In other words, most displays srhink the color gamut of RGB itself so it doesn't produce the full range the source device is sending.  This display tech just allows more of that of that RGB signal to be properly shown.

Yeah I thought so too until today. But then I read this: http://www.cine4home.de/tests/TVs/Sony_W905/Test_Sony_W905.htm

 RGB does by far not transmit a native color pallet. Triluminos in PS4 solves the problem now all we need are Triluminos Games remastered Triluminos Blurays and a Triluminos TV or else the TV just "upscales" and messes up the colors.