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Forums - Politics Discussion - Real or not, Jesus is the most influencial Human in history! If you deny that you are lying to yourself-

 

Most influencial?

Obama 10 3.82%
 
Greg Johnson 2 0.76%
 
Elvis 6 2.29%
 
Karl Marx 12 4.58%
 
Benji Franklin 5 1.91%
 
Jesus 140 53.44%
 
Shakespear 6 2.29%
 
Mel Gibson 11 4.20%
 
Islam God, do not want to... 25 9.54%
 
Other ( Post below fake internet friends!) 43 16.41%
 
Total:260
Frank_kc on 08 April 2013
spurgeonryan said:
Talal said:
spurgeonryan said:
By the Way, jesus is winning in the poll. Next closest is Mel Gibson and Muhammed.


lol Mohammed isn't the Muslim god.


I thought Mohamed was a man? That is why he is not winning. No one knows him.....


No one knows him?? or you dont know him yourself?

 

Second largest religion in the world with over 1.2 Billion muslims which is about 22% of human population and no one knows him!



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ThatGreekGuy on 08 April 2013

Jesus.
As a Greek Orthodox I have to say that Jesus must be the most influential person in the world, whether you're Christian or not, he has an impact on all of us.



Max King of the Wild on 08 April 2013
dsgrue3 said:

Yep, indoctrinating sheep since 80 A.D.
Of course without the apostles writing of this alleged individual he wouldn't exist, so they are probably more important.

Alleged? What about the numerous non-believers who wrote about him who had no reason to lie?



Adinnieken on 08 April 2013
spurgeonryan said:
Adinnieken said:
Actually Yahweh or Jehovah or Allah would be.

Without his existence you wouldn't have Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. Comprising the largest single source for religious fanaticism on the planet.


Those three that you mentioned were men?

As real as men to the people who believe.  And if you're Christian, especially Catholic, you believe in the Trinity.  The Father (God), the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit).  Therefore, God is Jesus.



Mazty on 08 April 2013
spurgeonryan said:
Mazty said:

This is so wrong....

Your first and crucial mistake is pinning a set of beliefs and works (The Bible) on a guy called Jesus. He didn't write the Bible. Most of the stories are either nonsense or hear say written decades and centuries later. 

This guy, Constantine the Great, was the guy who actually organised the Bible to be written, ergo he is the most influential person if you believe Christianity is what has formed most of the last two millenia of morality. 

And then we can easily just as well argue that who actually created Christianity wasn't the above guy, but this one:

Plato. It's often said that his take on morality was the foundational ideas of Christianity. 

Education over. 

Moses wrote parts of the bible, as did Apostles of Jesus. You could also even say that King James is more influencial since he made the most sought after book of all time? Or what about Martin Luther who made the Bible available to the masses to actualy understand?

 

Is your post education or something you stole from Dan Brown?


You got proof that Moses wrote part of the Bible? No? Thought as much. And no, King James did not create the Bible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Bibles_of_Constantine

You clearly are mixing religious belief with reality. Fact is the Bible was written not by Jesus, and whether any of it is true or not is unknown. What we do know is that in 325AD a council near enough created modern day Christianity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

You can still be a Christian and accept how it was made btw.



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Frank_kc on 08 April 2013

Muhammad is definitely the most influential human in the history of mankind. He is the last messenger from god and his message was comprehensive to all religions prior to him.



Max King of the Wild on 08 April 2013
Adinnieken said:
spurgeonryan said:
Adinnieken said:
Actually Yahweh or Jehovah or Allah would be.

Without his existence you wouldn't have Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. Comprising the largest single source for religious fanaticism on the planet.


Those three that you mentioned were men?

As real as men to the people who believe.  And if you're Christian, especially Catholic, you believe in the Trinity.  The Father (God), the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit).  Therefore, God is Jesus.


There is one God. The Father is God. The Son is God. The Holy spirit is God. The Father is not the Son or Holy Spirit. The Son is not The Father or Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not The Father or The Son.

God is not Jesus. Jesus is God. There is a difference



Max King of the Wild on 08 April 2013
Mazty said:
spurgeonryan said:

Moses wrote parts of the bible, as did Apostles of Jesus. You could also even say that King James is more influencial since he made the most sought after book of all time? Or what about Martin Luther who made the Bible available to the masses to actualy understand?

 

Is your post education or something you stole from Dan Brown?


You got proof that Moses wrote part of the Bible? No? Thought as much. And no, King James did not create the Bible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Bibles_of_Constantine

You clearly are mixing religious belief with reality. Fact is the Bible was written not by Jesus, and whether any of it is true or not is unknown. What we do know is that in 325AD a council near enough created modern day Christianity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

You can still be a Christian and accept how it was made btw.

There is clear indication that Moses wrote parts of the Bible. There is as much proof for that there was a person named Socrates who lived in Greece



Torillian on 08 April 2013
Adinnieken said:
spurgeonryan said:
Adinnieken said:
Actually Yahweh or Jehovah or Allah would be.

Without his existence you wouldn't have Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. Comprising the largest single source for religious fanaticism on the planet.


Those three that you mentioned were men?

As real as men to the people who believe.  And if you're Christian, especially Catholic, you believe in the Trinity.  The Father (God), the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit).  Therefore, God is Jesus.

But historically and scientifically they aren't men.  It's like saying Harry Potter is the most influential man.  



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JakDaSnack on 08 April 2013
Mazty said:
spurgeonryan said:
Mazty said:

This is so wrong....

Your first and crucial mistake is pinning a set of beliefs and works (The Bible) on a guy called Jesus. He didn't write the Bible. Most of the stories are either nonsense or hear say written decades and centuries later. 

This guy, Constantine the Great, was the guy who actually organised the Bible to be written, ergo he is the most influential person if you believe Christianity is what has formed most of the last two millenia of morality. 

And then we can easily just as well argue that who actually created Christianity wasn't the above guy, but this one:

Plato. It's often said that his take on morality was the foundational ideas of Christianity. 

Education over. 

Moses wrote parts of the bible, as did Apostles of Jesus. You could also even say that King James is more influencial since he made the most sought after book of all time? Or what about Martin Luther who made the Bible available to the masses to actualy understand?

 

Is your post education or something you stole from Dan Brown?


You got proof that Moses wrote part of the Bible? No? Thought as much. And no, King James did not create the Bible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Bibles_of_Constantine

You clearly are mixing religious belief with reality. Fact is the Bible was written not by Jesus, and whether any of it is true or not is unknown. What we do know is that in 325AD a council near enough created modern day Christianity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

You can still be a Christian and accept how it was made btw.

The old Testament was written before either Plato or Constantine, and Jesus was referenced in EVERY book of the bible(bet you didn't know that:P)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls



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