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ninjablade said:
MB1025 said:
ninjablade said:

new update insider proelite is saying nextgen will blow us away this year graphically, when asked  should we happy for ps4 or 720, he says ps4 obviously, looks like he' gotten word that 720 is making sacrafices for kinect and the os, sad news indeed.


Your clearly being a troll now.

go to neogaf and see for yourself, it could be he was kidding since he works for microsft, but he hasn't said anything yet.

ninjablade = trolling



34 years playing games.

 

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more future tellers *sigh*



Teriol said:
ninjablade said:
MB1025 said:
ninjablade said:

new update insider proelite is saying nextgen will blow us away this year graphically, when asked  should we happy for ps4 or 720, he says ps4 obviously, looks like he' gotten word that 720 is making sacrafices for kinect and the os, sad news indeed.


Your clearly being a troll now.

go to neogaf and see for yourself, it could be he was kidding since he works for microsft, but he hasn't said anything yet.

ninjablade = trolling


i love how people label trolling as things they don't want to hear, you wanna ban bet me that these will resemble the final specs and ps4 will have better specs, i will ban bet you a month for me and 2 weeks for you.



Wow, the term trolling has come to have a very loose definition. Anyway, if this does come true, I don't know why 360 guys would be surprised. Other than one release each of Gears and Halo over the past 2 years, this seems like the direction MS has been going ever since the release of Kinect. Not saying the rumors are 100% correct, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were.



From Neogaf:

Reddit Rumor: PS4 and Xbox 720 Unveiled: Dev Spills the Beans on Reddit!

Originally Posted by Clay Davis: View Post:

posted a number of times in other threads. general consensus was that it's fake.

Originally Posted by thehypocrite: View Post:

This is old and bullshit (IMO)

Agreed, craving official info.



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509185



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ninjablade said:
Wyrdness said:
ninjablade said:
Wyrdness said:
Maelstrome said:
Im calling it now. People that focus on graphics and specs will ultimately be disappointed come launch of the next consoles.


I agree things are so rampant now people are setting themselves up for a fall in that regard.

ps4 is basically a 10x jump, 720, looking liek 7-8x jump, developers saying we will see a huge jump in graphics at launch, unless there expecting to rival a powerful pc, we should be happy.


No offence mate but you're coming across as an extremely gullible person right now. Do you know why people are telling you that these rumours are wayward and contradicting? They're coming from people who most likely are passing on second/third hand information with out knowing the actual tech directly, these sources are often people in a company who have no direct involvement with the devkit and might over hear something or get vague information off a friend who may be involved. For one these are devkits which means the retail models will have half the ram and you contradicted yourself here, I'm a PC gamer as well and right now the top PCs are around 10x the jump of the PS3, this is when using full HD assets like today. That 10x jump is you expecting it to rival a PC hence why I agree with Maelstrome people are setting themselves up for a fall.

Those perfomance numbers we keep getting in rumours don't tell you the actual performance and jump when running something at 1080p and 60fps they may just be simple tests for all we know. Even 6x the jump of the 360 is questionable and being optimistic, 360 and PS3 tech only became financially viable two or so years ago, a jump of even 6x will be murder trying to balance finances and that's before we get to Kinect taking up resources and Sony said to be going for a tablet controller.

ignore the infromation that we have if you like but the ps4 is easily gonna be an 8 x jump, already heard from several developers stating the samething.

Ignoring information? We have named sources that are saying it wont be as big a leap as people think. Neil Thompson from bioware says it wont be obvious. He is an art and animation director. John Carmack is certain that games will still be 720p and 30 fps for the majority. Look at the sources of the rumours. The ones with names attached to them are much more modest than the anonymous ones. I am pretty confident that the rumour mill is out of control right now in the hope of generating hits and popularity. I still know people that believe that monster hunter 4 is going to be released on vita. Its not any different. These rumours really come off as wishful thinking. Before it was said the x720 would have a 1.6 gh processor the rumours said 4 cores. As soon as that comment dropped, all of a sudden its 8 cores or more.I have seen rumours of the other consoles using gpus that cost several hundred american dollars on their own.  With the recent retreading of the idea that the x720 will have a 6670 gpu,people now want to believe it will have 2 of them.All the people putting stock into these rumours of powerful hardware and amazing graphics will be disappointed come this e3.Some of them may even be down right angry. Even if the best hardware rumours are true, the majority of games wont look much better than these last few titles for the x360 and ps3. Devs just dont have the manpower or funding to go much higher.

 

TLDR- you are setting yourself up for disappointment.



When's all said and done, I feel the eight gen would end in a highly unexpected tone.



Maelstrome said:

Ignoring information? We have named sources that are saying it wont be as big a leap as people think. Neil Thompson from bioware says it wont be obvious. He is an art and animation director. John Carmack is certain that games will still be 720p and 30 fps for the majority. Look at the sources of the rumours. The ones with names attached to them are much more modest than the anonymous ones. I am pretty confident that the rumour mill is out of control right now in the hope of generating hits and popularity. I still know people that believe that monster hunter 4 is going to be released on vita. Its not any different. These rumours really come off as wishful thinking. Before it was said the x720 would have a 1.6 gh processor the rumours said 4 cores. As soon as that comment dropped, all of a sudden its 8 cores or more.I have seen rumours of the other consoles using gpus that cost several hundred american dollars on their own.  With the recent retreading of the idea that the x720 will have a 6670 gpu,people now want to believe it will have 2 of them.All the people putting stock into these rumours of powerful hardware and amazing graphics will be disappointed come this e3.Some of them may even be down right angry. Even if the best hardware rumours are true, the majority of games wont look much better than these last few titles for the x360 and ps3. Devs just dont have the manpower or funding to go much higher.

 

TLDR- you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

I think the only ones setting themselves up for disappointment are Nintendo fans praying that the PS4 and NeXbox will only be marginally better than the PS3/360, meaning only slightly better than the Wii U.  Sony and MS have never jumped a gen with slightly upgraded HW, and they aren't going to start it now.  Not only would it piss off their supporters, but it would also be completely unnecessary for them to spend years and millions of dollars on R&D if the graphics are only marginally above the PS3's.  I think Wii U owners need to accept that they will be getting games that look slightly better than the PS3, while PS4 owners will be getting games that look on par to the the Samaritan demo.



lmfao some of these people are in denial.

The specs are out there. They're 90% accurate. I'd bet on it.



Cyrus_ATX said:
From Neogaf:

Reddit Rumor: PS4 and Xbox 720 Unveiled: Dev Spills the Beans on Reddit!

Originally Posted by Clay Davis: View Post:

posted a number of times in other threads. general consensus was that it's fake.

Originally Posted by thehypocrite: View Post:

This is old and bullshit (IMO)

Agreed, craving official info.



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=509185

What about the Digital Foundry article? They don't go an write a detailed analysis based on pure speculation or rumors. They have solid info that says PS4 > 720.