No one said it's just little modified GPU&,and no one even said the R&D of MS for Durango project only about GPU

http://vr-zone.com/articles/rumored-xbox-720-and-playstation-4-specs-hit-the-web/18741.html     Article dated 1-20-2013

"Unlike Sony, there is no rumor as to when Microsoft will be announcing the next-generation Xbox, but we hear that it is currently codenamed internally as “Durango." Similar to the PS4, the Durango will be coming with an 8 core processor clocked at 1.6GHz, and uses AMD's Jaguar architecture. However, Microsoft's console will come with 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, a healthy portion compared to the PS4’s allotted RAM serving. So far we don't have any solid word on what the graphics chip will be like other than it is supposedly on par, if not better, than the PS4."

I don't know is this is a typo but it goes to show that  until we start getting more concrete facts, everything has to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Now, if the 720 really does launch with 8GB of GDDR5 RAM and reserve 3GB for the OS, then that would leave 5GB of GDDR5 RAM for games vs. the 4GB of GDDR5 RAM for PS4 (or 3.5GB when accounting what's reserved for the OS) which would explain some insiders claiming that they will both be pretty equal, perhaps with PS4 having an edge on CPU (more FLOPS) and 720 having an edge on RAM.

You are going to argue about this when you specifically highlighted a passage of what I said and deny it?

Reasons why.
1) Cheaper.
2) Easier for developers to take advantage of.
3) They did it on the Xbox 360 which incurred no negative effects from doing so, only positives.

I did not highlighted the GPU part,only R&D part lol

Seriously?360's RAM is GDDR3,not DDR3

And read my second line.

No. You highlighted "You don't honestly think they spend years and Millions/Billions".
Aka. Me referring to the fact that the R&D for the GPU's design was done for a long time as it was readily available on the PC and they wouldn't bother investing allot of R&D time and money into it.

Then you came along as said... "Well they are". - Again, no logical thinking to disprove me otherwise.


As for the Xbox 360's Ram I never referred to it's memory type, only the fact it was a single memory pool.

Anyway, my "Give a crap" meter for this thread has plummeted. I'm going to bed.

No offence mate but you're coming across as an extremely gullible person right now. Do you know why people are telling you that these rumours are wayward and contradicting? They're coming from people who most likely are passing on second/third hand information with out knowing the actual tech directly, these sources are often people in a company who have no direct involvement with the devkit and might over hear something or get vague information off a friend who may be involved. For one these are devkits which means the retail models will have half the ram and you contradicted yourself here, I'm a PC gamer as well and right now the top PCs are around 10x the jump of the PS3, this is when using full HD assets like today. That 10x jump is you expecting it to rival a PC hence why I agree with Maelstrome people are setting themselves up for a fall.

Those perfomance numbers we keep getting in rumours don't tell you the actual performance and jump when running something at 1080p and 60fps they may just be simple tests for all we know. Even 6x the jump of the 360 is questionable and being optimistic, 360 and PS3 tech only became financially viable two or so years ago, a jump of even 6x will be murder trying to balance finances and that's before we get to Kinect taking up resources and Sony said to be going for a tablet controller.

ignore the infromation that we have if you like but the ps4 is easily gonna be an 8 x jump, already heard from several developers stating the samething.