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ryuzaki57 on 15 January 2013

No it's just the WiiU not appealing to anyone beyond Nintendo fans. People will throw themselves on the 399€ PS4 and X720.



 

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fedfed on 15 January 2013

Well i hope is the wiiu and that gaming doesn t end up like music.

Only time will tell. Mayve ps4 and nextbox will do better. I cannot wait to be wrong.... i have a few people that are dooming Nintendo to reply to.....



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M.U.G.E.N on 15 January 2013
Metallicube said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Metallicube said:

If people think the Wii U is doing bad, I have a feeling they're going to be VERY surprised when the other consoles release, especially the PS4..


Given we have no confirmed info about the systems still I believe this is more wishful thinking on your part than anything else. We can make some proper predictions once we learn more about them

Why would I want any of the consoles to do bad? I'm far from a fanboy if that is what you assume. Hating consoles or companies is a childish thing I grew out of many years ago.. Besides, I'd like to be in the games industry in the near future, so I have a vested interest in a healthy industry, and that means all of the big three doing well.

I'm only going off evidence I've seen. The industry is in a bad state, and all signs seem to point to it getting far worse. I would list them all here, but I'd rather just do that in my own topic.. And I very much include Nintendo in this decline by the way.


so you are going to make a thread about it then? Good I look forward to it. I want to know what these 'signs' are



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Otakumegane on 15 January 2013
ryuzaki57 said:
No it's just the WiiU not appealing to anyone beyond Nintendo fans. People will throw themselves on the 399€ PS4 and X720.


The same way people will throw themselves on the Vita? With a 249 euro price point? Yeah, not gonna happen. No matter how good people say it is.

I admit at the current stage only Nintendo Fans have the WiiU, but the price is a very big problem. No one's going to throw 399 Euro on PS4 and X720 until the next Halo, Uncharted, next-gen CoD comes out. (And it seems likely that next years CoD might come to both Ps3 and 360 too.) No one's gonna buy those consoles either no matter how good they are until the needed software starts coming out.

It has always been price+software. WiiU is lacking in both right now.



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VGKing on 15 January 2013

Nope. Next-gen consoles will sell fine. Wii U is marketed at the same people that buy iPads or iPods for their kids on Christmas. That is why its selling poorly. PS4/720 wont' have that problem as long as they continue to get the Call of Duties, Battlefields and Grand Theft Autos.



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VGKing on 15 January 2013
Otakumegane said:
ryuzaki57 said:
No it's just the WiiU not appealing to anyone beyond Nintendo fans. People will throw themselves on the 399€ PS4 and X720.


The same way people will throw themselves on the Vita? With a 249 euro price point? Yeah, not gonna happen. No matter how good people say it is.

I admit at the current stage only Nintendo Fans have the WiiU, but the price is a very big problem. No one's going to throw 399 Euro on PS4 and X720 until the next Halo, Uncharted, next-gen CoD comes out. (And it seems likely that next years CoD might come to both Ps3 and 360 too.) No one's gonna buy those consoles either no matter how good they are until the needed software starts coming out.

It has always been price+software. WiiU is lacking in both right now.

Vita is a different story. It's not selling well because of the 3DS and smartphones/tablet competition. Why are you even bringing that up?



Distant Star on 15 January 2013

Console gaming is still on the rise. I believe emerging markets will ensure growth like Brazil, China, Russia, India, Turkey, Indonesia.

http://r3dux.org/2012/10/35-years-of-console-sales-figures/



Otakumegane on 15 January 2013
VGKing said:
Otakumegane said:
ryuzaki57 said:
No it's just the WiiU not appealing to anyone beyond Nintendo fans. People will throw themselves on the 399€ PS4 and X720.


The same way people will throw themselves on the Vita? With a 249 euro price point? Yeah, not gonna happen. No matter how good people say it is.

I admit at the current stage only Nintendo Fans have the WiiU, but the price is a very big problem. No one's going to throw 399 Euro on PS4 and X720 until the next Halo, Uncharted, next-gen CoD comes out. (And it seems likely that next years CoD might come to both Ps3 and 360 too.) No one's gonna buy those consoles either no matter how good they are until the needed software starts coming out.

It has always been price+software. WiiU is lacking in both right now.

Vita is a different story. It's not selling well because of the 3DS and smartphones/tablet competition. Why are you even bringing that up?


Because the Vita is in a similar situation with the WiiU now, they both lack a competitive price point and the software.

When X720 and PS4 launch, they aren't going to launch with the next Halo, they aren't going to have Uncharted 4, and for sure not COD only on those two consoles. Now once Ninty reveals everything and its still not selling then i'll be worried.

But I'm not gonna be worried if PS4 and X720 dont sell much at launch because at that point the price just doesn't justify the software. The same arguments that the Vita faced are the same that all the next-gen consoles will face.



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VGKing on 15 January 2013
Otakumegane said:
VGKing said:
Otakumegane said:
ryuzaki57 said:
No it's just the WiiU not appealing to anyone beyond Nintendo fans. People will throw themselves on the 399€ PS4 and X720.


The same way people will throw themselves on the Vita? With a 249 euro price point? Yeah, not gonna happen. No matter how good people say it is.

I admit at the current stage only Nintendo Fans have the WiiU, but the price is a very big problem. No one's going to throw 399 Euro on PS4 and X720 until the next Halo, Uncharted, next-gen CoD comes out. (And it seems likely that next years CoD might come to both Ps3 and 360 too.) No one's gonna buy those consoles either no matter how good they are until the needed software starts coming out.

It has always been price+software. WiiU is lacking in both right now.

Vita is a different story. It's not selling well because of the 3DS and smartphones/tablet competition. Why are you even bringing that up?


Because the Vita is in a similar situation with the WiiU now, they both lack a competitive price point and the software.

When X720 and PS4 launch, they aren't going to launch with the next Halo, they aren't going to have Uncharted 4, and for sure not COD only on those two consoles. Now once Ninty reveals everything and its still not selling then i'll be worried.

But I'm not gonna be worried if PS4 and X720 dont sell much at launch because at that point the price just doesn't justify the software. The same arguments that the Vita faced are the same that all the next-gen consoles will face.

They'll have a few exclusives. Anyway the power leap alone will be enough for many people..anyway even if they do struggle at launch, which they probably will to some degree, they have guaranteed long-term 3rd party support. Wii U doesn't have that.



NintendoPie on 15 January 2013
ninjablade said:
benji232 said:
NintendoPie said:
I'm not actually sure what you are trying to say in the title...

I meant can the poor performances of the wiiu be explained by the fact that people aren't so much interested in next gen dedicated gaming consoles.

not sure if serious, but the wii u is hardly nextgen when it come to tech, and if you think the next 360 and ps3 are not gonna do amazing sales think again, a few avertisements on xbox live and psn and gamers  are gonna go crazy, gamers are spending more time playing games then ever,thus making them more hardcore then ever, while the wii has been dead been for 2 years with out third party support and games and no online community, get real dude.

No one was talking about tech. Nice job.