Is that so?

This gator begs to differ.

I'm saying that conventional shotguns and rifles shouldn't be lumped together with handguns.  The former aren't used in crime a fraction as often as the latter.

Because we can totally stop other countries from making guns and smuggling them into the country right? And anti-gun laws will totally stop bad people from owning guns?

The real problem is not guns it's gangs and drug wars. The best way to fix that problem would be to just legalize most drugs, not to restrict guns.

There is a reason the worst gun-related crime areas and mass shootings take place in heavily gun controlled areas and gun restricted buildings. 

Sorry but there are a lot of nut jobs out there who propose exactly that.

+1

You restore an iota of my faith in the human race.

You can make a handgun with $5 dollars worht of material in 20 minutes. You can make an automatic rifle with less than $100. The only thing that prevents people from doing such is that there are already guns on the market. The bigger problem would be a lack of ammunition of course, but even that can be made easily. In fact, guns are easier to make than drugs because you have to grow the plants or play with the chemicals. All you need to make a gun is to put a few components together. 

lol, are going to forge the components yourself? anyway, my point is gun control maybe not be the panacea, but sure is better than zero control

As a long time gun owner, who has never harmed anyone, I can assure you that there is no different between what you call a "normal rifle" and for example an AR-15, which is the semi-automatic version of the military's M16. The serve the same purpose and you can hunt with both. A hunting rifle usually comes with a wood stock, but you can get synthetic black stocks with folding stocks, extended magazines/clips, and any kind of optics you could want. You can make a hunting rifle purchased from Wal-Mart look just like the scary guns from blockbuster movies and COD. You can also buy a Mini-14 which is just the "ranch" version of the AR-15 which like I said is the civilian version of the M16. The Mini-14 fires the same ammo, from the same size magazines, but it comes with a wood stock and looks like a hunting rifle.

But then again maybe you're talking about handguns. Handguns are tools too. Very important tools. If you have a permit you can protect yourself and your family from dangerous people who would kill you for your shoes. Or you could be like me and enjoying target shooting with a 9mm because it's fun and a very practical hobby.

Again as a long time gun owner of both shotguns, rifles, and handguns I have never harmed anyone. My guns are locked up so no visitors or their kids could cause an accident.

If your problem is that guns were designed for "killing people" as you put, I suggest you read up on the history of a great many technologies and their origin. The Military is responsible for the computer you are typing on and the internet you are posting on. The first real computers were designed for calculating long range trajectory so ships could drop shells on other ships fill with people. Computers were designed for killing people. But like guns, computers have other uses too. Some people choose to use computers to do harm just as some people choose to use guns to do others harm. Those people are called criminals and no law has ever stopped a criminal from breaking the law. Criminals commit crimes, that is what makes them criminals. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens cannot stop criminals from committing crimes. Take a look at the international murder rate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

The USA shows up at 4.8 out of over 100,000 people. The USA is about in the middle to lower half of murder rates. Many countries with higher rates have gun bans.

Scary guns with black stocks aren't causing crime. Scary criminals cause crime.

Is anyone talking about zero control? That would be madness, that's thinking in extremes, just like people who want every .22 & duck gun melted down.

It won't be long before guns can be created by just about anyone, too.