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Should we have tighter restrictions on what poor can buy?

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no 29 35.37%
 
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Branko2166 said:
Kasz216 said:
It's not surprising when you consider 1 out of every 6 people is on food stamps. It's only natural for kids to be more likely to be on that list since they contribute nothing.


Don't know what to make of this way of thinking.  What were you or any of us contributing to the economy as children. Unless you are advocating early employment for children I don't know how they could "contribute anything". I was always under the impression that childhood was the time to study and make ourselves ready to contribute as adults but it sounds like you may have a different perspective.

If you do please enlighten us.




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spurgeonryan said:

It is surprising when you do not realize that much of America is on food stamps.

 

I'm not caught up on food stamp numbers. For that matter, anything food stamps. 

Give me the info on how much money was spent for the last 3 decades.

Give me the populace for last 3 decades.

I'm just ignorant about it.



Branko2166 said:
Kasz216 said:
It's not surprising when you consider 1 out of every 6 people is on food stamps. It's only natural for kids to be more likely to be on that list since they contribute nothing.


Don't know what to make of this way of thinking.  What were you or any of us contributing to the economy as children. Unless you are advocating early employment for children I don't know how they could "contribute anything". I was always under the impression that childhood was the time to study and make ourselves ready to contribute as adults but it sounds like you may have a different perspective.

If you do please enlighten us.


What's there there to understand?   Kids are an expense and don't bring in any revenue.   Therefore in an evenly distributed society those with childen will be poorer.  Therefore... a higher percentage of children will be on foodstamps then women or men.  



sethnintendo said:

I'm just going to repost the same message I put in another one of your threads.

I agree that food stamps should be limited to healthy food. I've seen plenty of times people load up on sodas, chips, and anything else unhealthy at the 7/11 and swipe their WIC card. Papa Murphy's (take home pizza to cook in oven) shouldn't be allowed to accept food stamps either. Fruits, veggies, and meat is all you should be allowed to buy with a WIC card at a grocery store (convenience store/gas stations shouldn't be allowed to accept WIC). Buy everything else with your own money.



WIC is completely different from SNAP (food stamps). WIC is limited to grocery stores and they look like checks which has the items you can redeem. Its like 4 gallons of milk a month and they have dates which they are valid. So you can only buy like 2 gallons at a time if you want to use both of the vouchers that have it on them. They also have a dozen eggs on the milk voucher so if you elect out of getting eggs you can't get them later if you use the milk. They also have peanut butter and bread voucher. 10 dollar for fresh, canned or frozen fruits and veggies. and some others



The worst is when people sell their food stamps. My own mother has done it, and I always hate seeing her cheat the system and do this just because she needs money. At the same time, my mother spends more than a thousand per year on cigarettes and wastes her tax returns on useless items. How is that acceptable? I've grown up thinking this was right, of course, because to these people it's not a big deal. it's just a matter of survival. However; it is a means of dependency, and it would be much better if the job opportunities were superior to working class individuals, who have less education, rather than the utilization of a redistribution system that they can abuse.



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When you measure the cost of food per calorie junk food seems very affordable, but when you measure cost of food by weight or volume junk food is suprisingly expensive; and it is the volume/weight of a food that often tells you how much a person can realistically eat. The average person can (but shouldn't) eat a 200g bag of potato chips which represents about 1000 calories, while you would need about 10 average sized apples to get the same number of calories and few people could eat 10 average sized apples without consequences; and (depending on countless factors) you can probably get between 3 and 10 apples for a similar cost as that bag of potato chips.

Most of the heathiest meals I know of are also the cheapest, and they tend to involve a lot of beans or lentils, and most people eating a lot of junk food spend far more per meal than these meals cost. People aren't eating poorly because they don't have money, they're eating poorly because they want to ...



Max King of the Wild said:

its on a credit card looking think. It replenishes every month and you use it just like a credit card. You can use it in almost every place that sells food. Also, I believe you can use it at McDonalds now.... you can by anything you want that is considered food... this includes soda, chips, chocolate, gummy bears, ect ect

ew.. that pretty messed up, was it the corporate industry pressure that made Foodstamps accepted at fast food chains or demands from the public?



 

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NiKKoM said:
Max King of the Wild said:

its on a credit card looking think. It replenishes every month and you use it just like a credit card. You can use it in almost every place that sells food. Also, I believe you can use it at McDonalds now.... you can by anything you want that is considered food... this includes soda, chips, chocolate, gummy bears, ect ect

ew.. that pretty messed up, was it the corporate industry pressure that made Foodstamps accepted at fast food chains or demands from the public?



Good question. Maybe someone here can answer it because I don't know.



 

$78 billion spent on food stamps. 2% of the budget. 

 

 

47 million on food stamps:

White Population vs Food Stamp Usage: 47 million * (35.7%) = 16,779,000 / 223,553,265 (White population of the United States) = 7.5% on food stamps.

Black Population vs Food Stamp Usage: 47 million * (22.0%) = 10,340,000 / 38,929,319 (Black population of the United States) = 26.7% on food stamps.

Hispanic Population vs Food Stamp Usage: 47 million * (10.0%) = 4,700,000 / 50,477,594 (Hispanic population of the United States) = 9.3% on food stamps.



spurgeonryan said:

Should we be worried about the economy or Happy that 1/4 of Americas kids are fat?

 

http://nation.foxnews.com/food-stamps/2013/01/09/1-4-children-food-stamps

I am interested in this part of the article:

But Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions — one of the most vocal critics of the recent skyrocketing SNAP enrollment numbers and USDA’s promotion of the benefit — contends that something must be done about government policies and a USDA that he says is more interested in enrolling Americans in the program than finding real solutions.

“It has become sadly clear that Agriculture Secretary Vilsack wishes to make welfare part of the normal American experience, with no regard for social or economic consequences. How else can you explain why he gave an award to a recruitment worker for overcoming the ‘mountain pride’ of rural Americans?” Sessions told The Daily Caller, recalling one of the many outreach efforts the USDA has engaged in over the years to get more people on SNAP. (RELATED: USDA suggests people host food stamp parties to boost SNAP enrollment)


Senator Jeff Sessions is part of the U.S government in a leadership positions.  Has he proposed any reasonable solutions to actually get at the core problems of poverty and kids without food?  Anyone know, or is it just cut things and let them sort themselves out?