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osed125 said:
HappySqurriel said:
From my understanding, Nintendo hardware and software generally performs better at retailers like Walmart, Target and Toys R Us than it does at dedicated gaming and eletronic stores.

I also wonder to what extend the expansion of digital sales has angered retailers like Gamestop who depend on second hand game sales being that digital games can't be sold second hand.

I can't see the software numbers being big numbers all together. Big games like NSMBU might have reached more than 10k digitally, but other games are probably lower than that. Although even if those numbers are small it surely have angered Gamestop in some way.


I'm not suggesting that digital sales have been remarkable, but I think a lot of retailers are very threatened by digital distribution ...

I could be wrong but I think that a digital store that is set up something like Steam can really kill off a large portion of second hand game sales. After all, how big will the market be for second hand games if publishers start selling most of these games for $10 to $20 a year or two after they were released?



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Are they dissapointed in Basic Set, Deluxe Set, Software or Overall Wii U performance?
Would be good to see their "expectations", thought.



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Also Ben, you and others don't seem to realise what supply-constrained means. It doesn't mean a bunch of soccer moms beating each other up to get the last one like they did with the Wii a few years ago. It doesn't mean you don't see them on shelves. It simply means that they are leaving stores at a rate that is at least equal to the rate they are entering stores. This can take days or weeks, but it is definitely the case. We know it because the sales are on pace with Nintendo's manufacturing projection pace. I hate anecdotes, but can say personally that when I walked into a several WalMarts and Gamestops and BestBuys on the days before Christmas there were no WiiU's. Stores may and wherehouses may or may not have inventory, but it's not a growing inventory. Not yet anyway. Therefore the supply chain is supply-constrained.



Just wnt to go ahead and bring up something. Nintendo expects to sell 5m wiiU's in it's fiscal year. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that was nintendo's prediction. I don't know when it'
s fiscal year ends but I'd judge it off of that.




       

BenVTrigger said:

Pretty much.  Theres proof enough everywhere I dont need to post exact numbers.

All you have to do is walk into any retail store and youll see plenty of consoles.  Go online to places where scalpers tried to buy them and sell them for high price and you see they all got completly screwed.  Look at any software chart and tell me how Wii U titles are blazing up.

How many statements has Nintendo made about extreme low stock and struggling to meet demand?  Im not bashing the Wii U at all as I think its a sokid system but this belief that the console is supply constrained at least in NA is a complete myth

But there is a massive difference between being sold out and being supply limited ...

Being sold out implies that you can't walk into a store anywhere and buy a system, being supply limited means that there are some sales that are not being completed because there is limited supply in the area where people are looking to buy a system.



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@Jay.  They project to ship 5.5 million units by the end of March. Their sales are consistent with those shipping numbers.



JayWood2010 said:
Just wnt to go ahead and bring up something. Nintendo expects to sell 5m wiiU's in it's fiscal year. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that was nintendo's prediction. I don't know when it'
s fiscal year ends but I'd judge it off of that.


Nintendo's fiscal year ends March 31st ...

It is likely that as of December 31st Nintendo will have sold more than 2.5 million units, and if they sell over 150,000 units a week for the first 13 weeks of the year they should be close to meeting their shipment estimate of 5.5 million units.



TheLastStarFighter said:
Also Ben, you and others don't seem to realise what supply-constrained means. It doesn't mean a bunch of soccer moms beating each other up to get the last one like they did with the Wii a few years ago. It doesn't mean you don't see them on shelves. It simply means that they are leaving stores at a rate that is at least equal to the rate they are entering stores. This can take days or weeks, but it is definitely the case. We know it because the sales are on pace with Nintendo's manufacturing projection pace. I hate anecdotes, but can say personally that when I walked into a several WalMarts and Gamestops and BestBuys on the days before Christmas there were no WiiU's. Stores may and wherehouses may or may not have inventory, but it's not a growing inventory. Not yet anyway. Therefore the supply chain is supply-constrained.


I can agree that stores dont have huge stocks of Wii Us as that isnt the case.  However the majority do have inventory.  This isnt anywhere similar to back when the Wii launched where it was a complete sell out the moment inventory arrived.

So if your simply saying supply is constant without ever being overstocked I can certainly agree with that.  It seems Nintendo is simply keeping pace with sales well.  I see people on these forums at times imply the Wii U is in a similar situation to the Wii and thought you were trying to agree with them.  



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TheLastStarFighter said:
BenVTrigger 0 minutes ago

Excuse me? Its well established I work for Gamestop theres been posted proof here

The Wii U is not supply constrained. Period end of story at ANY retailer. Wal-Mart, Gamestop, Target, or Best Buy. That doesnt mean it hasnt had a successful launch however. It has done pretty well. That being said calling Wii U supply constrained is a flat out lie

You may or may not work at a Gamestop, I don't really care. However, I am quite certain you don't have access to info such as ATII for the chain. If you did, you wouldn't be scared of being fired.

lol what...so he should risk getting into trouble because of some random on the internet refuses to listen to reason? haha this is great

Take our word for it..the man works for Gamestop and has access to such info. It's well known here on VGC

 

I don't care what he does. I'm just saying I don't believe him. You can believe him if you want to. What does he do for Gamestop?



Boy, that escalated quickly...

New year, will be key. As was the case for Vita. Sadly it did not go well in that case.



 

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