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outlawauron on 18 December 2012
Mr Khan said:
outlawauron said:
the_dengle said:
hatmoza said:
The moon landing was a hoax *puts on tinfoil hat*.


I would have to say, with my limited knowledge of American history, that the civil war and the emancipation were the most badass moments.

I would agree if the Civil War wasn't also one of the most disgraceful events in American history. When you think about it, half our country was fighting to keep slavery.

Oh God, this statement makes me sick to my stomach to the point of wanting to vomit.

While it is more complex than that, that's what the bulk of it boils down to. The South was fighting to preserve its economic way of life (for there were other concerns, such as tariffs that favored New England factories versus European competitors), but slavery was the cornerstone of the South's Latin-American-esque (versus the North's European-esque) lifestyle, and so was the primary motive for fighting.

The primary motive of fighting was the North's desire to continue the Union. Slavery only became an issue in the war two years after it had already and was in name only. No one was ever saved or freed until the 13th Amendment. Lincoln was never a proponent of racial equality or anything similar. While slavery was a motivator for secession, it wasn't the cornerstone of it. You still had 4 slave states fight against the Confederacy (once again, during the war and afterwards, slavery was permitted until the 13th amendment). It's truly a shame that so many had to die to reach an ending that would have happened very soon regardless.



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snyps on 18 December 2012

If I could, I would fight for the south. They weren't fighting to keep slaves, I mean they just invented the cotton gin. It was now cheaper to pay low wages than house and keep slaves.

They were fighting for sovereignty, something every state was guaranteed when they joined the confederacy.



zuvuyeay on 18 December 2012

 

patrick moore who sadly died last week said it was one of the greatest achievements in human history so yes pretty "bad ass" for you i'd say,

i watched a documentary on the moon landing where patrick moore was in the BBC studio and they asked Pink Floyd to jam to the feed from the moon,they certainly don't make it like that anymore

i searched for the doco but cannot find it so here is patrick moore on the moon,you must watch a bit if you have never seen patrick moore before he is very old now but a complete legend in my eyes,plus a bit of floyd on the moon

 

 

 



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outlawauron on 18 December 2012
snyps said:
If I could, I would fight for the south. They weren't fighting to keep slaves, I mean they just invented the cotton gin. It was now cheaper to pay low wages than house and keep slaves.

They were fighting for sovereignty, something every state was guaranteed when they joined the confederacy.

Manufacturing would have continued its movement throughout the country and slavery would have ceased to exist. While you could argue that the manufacturing economy in the north was worse than slave labor, it was all in plan to get to where we are now.



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Carl on 18 December 2012

I watched a documentary on the moon landing a couple of Weeks ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIy8ZqqK5G8 - I think thats the right link.

I simply dont believe it really happened.

On the other hand, fooling the entire World into believing it would also be pretty "badass" I guess



                            

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Mr Khan on 18 December 2012
snyps said:
If I could, I would fight for the south. They weren't fighting to keep slaves, I mean they just invented the cotton gin. It was now cheaper to pay low wages than house and keep slaves.

They were fighting for sovereignty, something every state was guaranteed when they joined the confederacy.

Well, you're entitled to that opinion, however horrible it is.

Edit: Civil War historical revisionism really burns me up.



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outlawauron on 18 December 2012
Carl2291 said:
I watched a documentary on the moon landing a couple of Weeks ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIy8ZqqK5G8 - I think thats the right link.

I simply dont believe it really happened.

On the other hand, fooling the entire World into believing it would also be pretty "badass" I guess

Seriously Carl?

@ Khan

lol, the victors are the ones who write history. Not the other way around.



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outlawauron on 18 December 2012
spurgeonryan said:
I think Mythbusters basically proved it happened....

Anyways. Most pimpest moment was buying Louisianna territory for next to nothing.

Bad asa moment? Not wimping out and dropping the bomb...but fighting across the Pacific to Japan like bad Ase mother tucker's that we are. Now that was some brutal Shit!

Then moon landing.

I definitely agree with this.



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zuvuyeay on 18 December 2012
outlawauron said:
Carl2291 said:
I watched a documentary on the moon landing a couple of Weeks ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIy8ZqqK5G8 - I think thats the right link.

I simply dont believe it really happened.

On the other hand, fooling the entire World into believing it would also be pretty "badass" I guess

Seriously Carl?

@ Khan

lol, the victors are the ones who write history. Not the other way around.

 

i saw a doco on the civil war and it said the south messed up their funding of the war,can't quite remember the facts,about selling the cotton to europe,of course the supply lines were being squeezed by the north but it was interesting none the less

as you say winners write the history and tend not to mention the murky truth



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brendude13 on 18 December 2012
spurgeonryan said:
I think Mythbusters basically proved it happened....

Anyways. Most pimpest moment was buying Louisianna territory for next to nothing.

Bad asa moment? Not wimping out and dropping the bomb...but fighting across the Pacific to Japan like bad Ase mother tucker's that we are. Now that was some brutal Shit!

Then moon landing.

That's because we hadn't made it yet!