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S.T.A.G.E. said:
The Xbox 360 has sold well beyond expected with only three exclusives. Has to say something about Pachters logic.


I think his logic is stuck in the old PS2 days where PS2 had many 3rd party exclusives. and helped to sell the console.

Which makes no sense anyway in Nintendo's case as they will always struggle to get real 3rd party support.

 



 

 

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bananaking21 said:
its like people didnt even read the article and just commented right away. i dislike patcher just like the next guy but he didnt say that nintendo's needs more exclusives IP's, he said that the WiiU needs more exclusives. it needs more of nintendo's exclusives to release. that's what he clearly said and he is 100% right. he wasnt talking about nintendo exclusives in general but the number of exclusive games on the WiiU

But that's such an obvious statement that Pachter must be really, really dumb to think that Nintendo WON'T release more games on the system... We all know that Mario Kart, 3D Mario and Zelda is coming. We'll have to wait and see if Donkey Kong and Metro will join the party eventually. And then we've got Monoliths and Retros new games....

Nintendo consoles NEVER runs short of exclusive games as long as Nintendo is willing to make them.



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Cobretti2 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
The Xbox 360 has sold well beyond expected with only three exclusives. Has to say something about Pachters logic.


I think his logic is stuck in the old PS2 days where PS2 had many 3rd party exclusives. and helped to sell the console.

Which makes no sense anyway in Nintendo's case as they will always struggle to get real 3rd party support.

 


Sony sold well in first, second and third party support, but yes they did have the wealth of third party. You're right, Nintendos consoles sell purely off of first party. Nintendo suffers from the same disease as Sega except they have more beloved characters that sell their consoles. Either it helps you or it hurts you, theres never an in between and always a sink or swim situation. Last gen they swam very well, lets hope they dont sink this gen.



DanneSandin said:
bananaking21 said:
its like people didnt even read the article and just commented right away. i dislike patcher just like the next guy but he didnt say that nintendo's needs more exclusives IP's, he said that the WiiU needs more exclusives. it needs more of nintendo's exclusives to release. that's what he clearly said and he is 100% right. he wasnt talking about nintendo exclusives in general but the number of exclusive games on the WiiU

But that's such an obvious statement that Pachter must be really, really dumb to think that Nintendo WON'T release more games on the system... We all know that Mario Kart, 3D Mario and Zelda is coming. We'll have to wait and see if Donkey Kong and Metro will join the party eventually. And then we've got Monoliths and Retros new games....

Nintendo consoles NEVER runs short of exclusive games as long as Nintendo is willing to make them.

lool pachter isnt really really dumb, he is just dumb :P but he has a point, if you noticed he didnt say they werent coming, its not the matter of "if" its the matter of "when". he says he is very pessimistic that they will be able to deliver them next year. and he has a point. WiiU is now competing with current (or for nintendo last gen) hardware. if they cant make exclusives to differentiate them selfs then they will have trouble. why buy a wiiU when the same games are being released on your 360 or ps3? why just not save up money and buy the PS4 or nextbox? the nextbox and ps4 will come by next year or atleast one of them and provide next gen quality graphics and capabilites. if by then nintendo doesnt differentiate them selfs from the ps3 and 360, there gonna be in a lot of trouble and in danger of people over looking it and focus on ps4 and 360



Cobretti2 said:
runqvist said:


Is there a rule or something that you can only make positive posts about nintendo here or what?


When did I say positive about Nintendo? In fact I said  "anything POSITIVE in ANY of the gaming boards, forget about NIntendo ones" (as I know nothing will be positive in those)

Well if you make this question quoting a neutral post on nintendo forums, one can assume that you have a problem with posts that aren't pro nintendo. Which clearly shows on this post.

And I did post something positive about Wii U! I overestimated its first week sales!



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DanneSandin said:
HoloDust said:
Yes, please, more exclusives - I think something like Shadows of the Hylians (or maybe Guardians of Zelda, if brand recognition is imperative), action-adventure-RPG, strictly concentrating on Sheikahs (and played as one), in familiar Zelda setting, but with darker tone (and more action and exploration and less puzzles), could be something that could potentially draw more "hardcore" PS360 audience - and even if not, it would enrich existing IPs.

Hey, I like this idea!! They should make that shit!!!

Hehe, thanks, I've been thinking about it for some time now, wondering what can make good new IP with gameplay and style similar to what is in demand on PS360 and in the same time having instant Nintendo brand recognition. Pretty much, answer came by itself - shadowy, combat, magic and stealth able characters that are heavily interweaved into Zelda lore, on which you can base a lot of future titles that complement Zelda games.



Patchers just worried Nintendo won't make enough exclusives next year to compete with upcoming launch games from competitors. If they don't pump them out they will appear short handed if those launch games for the other systems are substantial.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

I think they will do fine when it comes to exclusives. Even if they don't release in the next year, they can just announce some stuff and show videos and gamers will go crazy in anticipation like we did when Twilight Princess was announced YEARS before we finally got it.

I think Nintendo needs to have the best version of multi-plat titles. That will go a long way. And for fucks sake, the console needs to stop freezing. We got Nintendoland working flawlessly and now Call of Duty is going crazys.



Multi-plats are going to be a wash, even now Nintendo can't even get the best versions of most multi-plat titles, I don't see that changing next year.

If you like Nintendo franchises and Platinum Games -- buy a Wii U.

It's really that simple. If you don't or are lukewarm on those two ... go elsewhere.

Whatever third party content is decent is basically just a bonus as far as I see it.



Wait, doesnt Nintendo have more exclusives?