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Carl on 28 November 2012
sales2099 said:

Please explain this GT5 undertracked.

From what I understand, PD says it sold 9 million. Vgchartz says there are like 8.16 million sold.

Its not crazy to say the rest are on store shelves or in PS3 holiday bundles. Please clarify if im wrong.

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html

9,190,000 as of September according to that... Which is strange, because Im SURE it was recently at 9,010,000... ethomaz will have to clarify that one.

Anyway - at the end of September/ Start of October, VGChartz had GT5 sales at 7,939,964. Approximately 1.2 Million units unaccounted for. I dont think its possible for there to be THAT many on shelves. Id hazard a guess at it being at least 500k undertracked, depending how many bundles there are. Probably could go as high as 750k undertracked, if not more.

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41189/Global/ - GT5 Sales



                            

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sales2099 on 28 November 2012
Carl2291 said:
sales2099 said:

Please explain this GT5 undertracked.

From what I understand, PD says it sold 9 million. Vgchartz says there are like 8.16 million sold.

Its not crazy to say the rest are on store shelves or in PS3 holiday bundles. Please clarify if im wrong.

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html

9,190,000 as of September according to that... Which is strange, because Im SURE it was recently at 9,010,000... ethomaz will have to clarify that one.

Anyway - at the end of September/ Start of October, VGChartz had GT5 sales at 7,939,964. Approximately 1.2 Million units unaccounted for. I dont think its possible for there to be THAT many on shelves. Id hazard a guess at it being at least 500k undertracked, depending how many bundles there are. Probably could go as high as 750k undertracked, if not more.

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41189/Global/ - GT5 Sales

Well it is in a holiday bundle. Id say 500k undertracked tops, if that.



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Carl on 28 November 2012
sales2099 said:

Well it is in a holiday bundle. Id say 500k undertracked tops, if that.

Yeah. Would depend on a few things -

How many bundles there are.

When the bundles were shipped/ are being shipped.

If we had GT5 undertracked BEFORE September.



                            

dsgrue3 on 28 November 2012

Edit: Wrong thread!



ethomaz on 28 November 2012

sales2099 said:

Well it is in a holiday bundle. Id say 500k undertracked tops, if that.

Holiday bundle is shipped after September lol.



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Panama on 28 November 2012
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Jay520 said:
I vote GT5 to win since I don't see Halo 4 selling too much over 10m.

I'm pretty confident that Halo 4 will sell worse than Reach. Halo Reach's legs were considerably worse than Halo 3's legs. Halo Reach was selling about identical to Halo 3 for about 60 weeks. After that, Reach's sales came to a crawl in comparison to Halo 3. With Reach having relatively weak legs, there's nothing to suggest that Halo 4 will have legs comparable, let alone higher, than Halo 3's legs. Especially with the Nextbox rumored to release next year. That gives Halo 4 only one year to sell to the primary Xbox console. After that first year, I expect Halo 4's legs to drop in comparison to Reach, and especially Halo 3. I'm not saying it's going to have shit legs. But in comparison to Reach, which had three years to sell on the primary Xbox, I'm expecting Halo 4's legs to be a bit lower.

And GT5 is undertracked.


Halo reach was a bad game. Lol. I reccomended my halo friends NOT to buy it. 

Why would you rob them of a campaign that's better than 2 and 3s?



Jay520 on 28 November 2012
JayWood2010 said:
Jay520 said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Jay520 said:
I vote GT5 to win since I don't see Halo 4 selling too much over 10m.

I'm pretty confident that Halo 4 will sell worse than Reach. Halo Reach's legs were considerably worse than Halo 3's legs. Halo Reach was selling about identical to Halo 3 for about 60 weeks. After that, Reach's sales came to a crawl in comparison to Halo 3. With Reach having relatively weak legs, there's nothing to suggest that Halo 4 will have legs comparable, let alone higher, than Halo 3's legs. Especially with the Nextbox rumored to release next year. That gives Halo 4 only one year to sell to the primary Xbox console. After that first year, I expect Halo 4's legs to drop in comparison to Reach, and especially Halo 3. I'm not saying it's going to have shit legs. But in comparison to Reach, which had three years to sell on the primary Xbox, I'm expecting Halo 4's legs to be a bit lower.

And GT5 is undertracked.


Halo reach was a bad game. Lol. I reccomended my halo friends NOT to buy it. 


First time I've heard a Halo fan say that. If what you say is true, that Reach was a bad game, then how would you explain the high sales for its first year of sale? Surely, it wouldn't take a year before fans realized Reach was poor.


No most Halo fans will say that, me included.  Halo Reach was not good.  A lot of people liked the story but beyond that it was not that great.  Huge mistakes on Bungie's part.  it wasn't a bad game, just not good for the Halo standards.    It sold because it's Halo.  Kind of like Gran Turismo Prologue selling well. The name helps out regardless if it is amazing or not.



This is all subjective. We have no way of objectively calculating if Halo Reach was a disappointment to fans. I personally thought Halo Reach was excellent.

Jaywood2010 on 28 November 2012
Jay520 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Jay520 said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Jay520 said:
I vote GT5 to win since I don't see Halo 4 selling too much over 10m.

I'm pretty confident that Halo 4 will sell worse than Reach. Halo Reach's legs were considerably worse than Halo 3's legs. Halo Reach was selling about identical to Halo 3 for about 60 weeks. After that, Reach's sales came to a crawl in comparison to Halo 3. With Reach having relatively weak legs, there's nothing to suggest that Halo 4 will have legs comparable, let alone higher, than Halo 3's legs. Especially with the Nextbox rumored to release next year. That gives Halo 4 only one year to sell to the primary Xbox console. After that first year, I expect Halo 4's legs to drop in comparison to Reach, and especially Halo 3. I'm not saying it's going to have shit legs. But in comparison to Reach, which had three years to sell on the primary Xbox, I'm expecting Halo 4's legs to be a bit lower.

And GT5 is undertracked.


Halo reach was a bad game. Lol. I reccomended my halo friends NOT to buy it. 


First time I've heard a Halo fan say that. If what you say is true, that Reach was a bad game, then how would you explain the high sales for its first year of sale? Surely, it wouldn't take a year before fans realized Reach was poor.


No most Halo fans will say that, me included.  Halo Reach was not good.  A lot of people liked the story but beyond that it was not that great.  Huge mistakes on Bungie's part.  it wasn't a bad game, just not good for the Halo standards.    It sold because it's Halo.  Kind of like Gran Turismo Prologue selling well. The name helps out regardless if it is amazing or not.


This is all subjective. We have no way of objectively calculating if Halo Reach was a disappointment to fans. I personally thought Halo Reach was excellent.

es it was an excellent game and I don't disagree with that, but it was a dissapointment to many fans.  Were you on Bungie's forums when it came out?




       

ZaneWane on 28 November 2012
Carl2291 said:
sales2099 said:

Please explain this GT5 undertracked.

From what I understand, PD says it sold 9 million. Vgchartz says there are like 8.16 million sold.

Its not crazy to say the rest are on store shelves or in PS3 holiday bundles. Please clarify if im wrong.

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html

9,190,000 as of September according to that... Which is strange, because Im SURE it was recently at 9,010,000... ethomaz will have to clarify that one.

Anyway - at the end of September/ Start of October, VGChartz had GT5 sales at 7,939,964. Approximately 1.2 Million units unaccounted for. I dont think its possible for there to be THAT many on shelves. Id hazard a guess at it being at least 500k undertracked, depending how many bundles there are. Probably could go as high as 750k undertracked, if not more.

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41189/Global/ - GT5 Sales

again shipped not sold



ethomaz on 28 November 2012

ZaneWane said:

again shipped not sold

lol