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What are you?

Atheist/Agnostic 64 50.00%
 
Christian 46 35.94%
 
Satanist 11 8.59%
 
After this thread not sure 7 5.47%
 
Total:128
TheEvilBanana on 17 November 2012
Max King of the Wild said:
TheEvilBanana said:
Max King of the Wild said:
TheEvilBanana said:
Max King of the Wild said:
First of all how old are you?

20 years old. But age means nothing to me. Maturity of knowledge is not based upon age. I respect the opinion of a child, adult, or elder all the same. We are all equal and our opinions are all equally valid. Facts however can be incorrect, but opinions... No.



Age means a lot and this post proves it.

Secondly, whats your highest level of education?

You're so closed minded it's silly. Age DOES NOT MATTER OR MEAN ANYTHING. People who think that are just full of themselves because their older and want to feel superior. I've met kids smarter then most adults, including you in my opinion. Not to be offensive, but I believe you are very small minded and know nothing about real knowledge or wisdom. Level of education does not matter, the stuff they teach you in school besides math, english, and science, are invalid. You do not need to go to college to learn things, like Will Hunting says, all you need is the public library. Or these days, the internet. My education level on the scale of government schools, universities, or colleges does not matter. The fact that I used to spend over ten hours a day researching religion, society, culture, history, and science should matter, not the fact that I've been to some institution.

If you want to continue your biased thoughtline, I would ask that you leave my thread.



This post has proven my point. Thank you for the timely discussion.

You claim to be so open minded yet your response provides evidence on the contrary.

You used then instead of than.

You say children are smarter than me yet know nothing about me.

Education level says a lot and you avoiding the question leads me to believe it's minimal at best.

Grammar is useless, as long as people can understand what you say, silly useless rules do not matter. My post does not prove your point. Your post proves my point, that you are closed minded and only care about useless things such as age, grammar, and level of education. People can still go through years of college and be stupider then a 12 year old. They might know more about certain subjects, but they are less intelligent.

You are a very immature person. "This post have proven my point. Thank you for the timely discussions" This line shows much arrogance. You are a very arrogant and biased person, please leave my thread or actually try to have a logical discussions.

Please explain to my why age matters when the amount of knowledge you can learn is not limited by age. A 10 year old can know everything aa 50 year old knows and more, at least at an intellectual level, but not on an experience level. The difference between knowledge and wisdom, is that knowledge are things you know from studying, and wisdom is things you learn through experience. If you want to argue that people who are older have more wisdom then younger people, I would agree with you. But knowledge is not based upon age. Please prove me wrong with logical arguments instead of saying "Oh haha you post proves me right LOL you made a small grammar mistake so I AM RIGHT LOL I AM SO SMART". That's how you come off as to me.

I said I'VE MET CHILDREN SMARTER THEN YOU. Not that all children are smarter then you, can't you read? You have no idea the intelligence level of the children I have met. I've met kids so smart they would make ANY adult look dumb, not you specifically. But the fact that you put so little into your argument, just assume your right, don't really counter my points but instead point out a small grammar error on my part shows you truly do have a lack of intelligence.

By the way I'm in college for music and art. Eat that.



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Max King of the Wild on 17 November 2012
docholliday said:
Age does mean something, does it mean everything? No, but it is part of the equation. Personally I find your "LOOK AT ME I NEED ATTENTION" threads to be tiresome and boring, its an old act find something new to do. Also you cant really say "If I unbeknowingly insulted" and then immediately call those same said ppl "delusional". I'm sure many of them feel the same way about your beliefs as well.



Exactly. His response just shows exactly why too. I was never going to claim a 20 year old can never know as much as an older man but it definatly means something.



Soleron on 17 November 2012

Re: my last thread post about proof

I'm not asking you for proof, I'm asking you what experiments I can conduct that will verify those claims. If they exist it should be easy enough. I'd like to try this for myself because I can only accept something like that via doing it myself, not just reading what others have written on the subject.



Slimebeast on 17 November 2012

First of all, as a believing Christian, I'm not at all offended by this thread nor the locked thread.

It's a short summary of a world-view that is quite common to theistic Satanists. There are variations, but roughly they share most of what EvilBanana wrote - the view on science, view of the Hebrew God, view of the "Christian lie" and the Judeo-Christian conspiracy, view of human ethics and self-fullfillment, view of the satanic deity(ies), view on spirits and magic, view of the afterlife.

Obviously I don't agree with much of this worldview.



Max King of the Wild on 17 November 2012
Cirio said:

Y'know, I would love to contribute to the discussion you've posed since you obviously put a lot of thought into it, but your views about the Abrahamic religions AND Atheism are fundamentally incorrect which makes your post invalid. I would point out where you're wrong and why what you're saying is wrong, but I feel like it will turn into a pointless back and forth argument that most religious debates on this site turn into.



I agree, which is why I quickly mentioned them in the last post of mine. I'm just quoting you to highlight some flaws in the OP.



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TheEvilBanana on 17 November 2012
Max King of the Wild said:

Anyway to completely destroy your OP.

Both historians of theistic and atheistic believe Jesus was real. The dates you use is one side while there is evidence to support the idea they were written sooner than that.

Also, to believe that atheists solely believe in science, logic, and rational thoughts is naive.

And also believing christians don't believe in science, logic or rational thought just shows your ignorance

Maybe if you got a GED (If you don't yet have a High School diploma. I don't know your situation since you avoided the question so I'm starting off at the basics) and went to a university you would know this. Take a logic course or two because you claim to love it so much yet it's obvious you aren't skilled in it's discipline. Take an epistemological philosophy course. Those will go a long way in this sort of discussion for you next time.

Mainstream historiants of theistic and atheistic nature believe Jesus is real. You probably only study mainstream opinion. Most outspoken atheists ESPOUSE that they believe in science, logic and reason. Those are the people I am talking about. I  need to edit the thread to make that more clear.

REAL christians do not believe in science, logic or rational thoughts. Only the moderates.

All you have said is that my logic is invalid you have not proven it. Please prove that I am illogical when you say it.

You haven't even tried to destroy my OP. You barely adressed even a fraction of what I said.



docholliday on 17 November 2012

And your whole argument is based on the same bigotry and bias that you would gladly claim other ppl put forth. You make Christians out to believe some magical fairy tale, but your believe in an entity that could equally be claimed as fictitious as truth. A truly opened minded discussion of religion doesnt start with my views are correct and yours are stupid. If you really want to exchange views and opinions it seems that you are the one who needs to be more "open minded",



Max King of the Wild on 17 November 2012
TheEvilBanana said:

Grammar is useless, as long as people can understand what you say, silly useless rules do not matter. My post does not prove your point. Your post proves my point, that you are closed minded and only care about useless things such as age, grammar, and level of education. People can still go through years of college and be stupider then a 12 year old. They might know more about certain subjects, but they are less intelligent.

You are a very immature person. "This post have proven my point. Thank you for the timely discussions" This line shows much arrogance. You are a very arrogant and biased person, please leave my thread or actually try to have a logical discussions.

Please explain to my why age matters when the amount of knowledge you can learn is not limited by age. A 10 year old can know everything aa 50 year old knows and more, at least at an intellectual level, but not on an experience level. The difference between knowledge and wisdom, is that knowledge are things you know from studying, and wisdom is things you learn through experience. If you want to argue that people who are older have more wisdom then younger people, I would agree with you. But knowledge is not based upon age. Please prove me wrong with logical arguments instead of saying "Oh haha you post proves me right LOL you made a small grammar mistake so I AM RIGHT LOL I AM SO SMART". That's how you come off as to me.

I said I'VE MET CHILDREN SMARTER THEN YOU. Not that all children are smarter then you, can't you read? You have no idea the intelligence level of the children I have met. I've met kids so smart they would make ANY adult look dumb, not you specifically. But the fact that you put so little into your argument, just assume your right, don't really counter my points but instead point out a small grammar error on my part shows you truly do have a lack of intelligence.

By the way I'm in college for music and art. Eat that.


Level of education does not matter, the stuff they teach you in school besides math, english, and science, are invalid.



TheEvilBanana on 17 November 2012
NobleTeam360 said:
The first sentence of your thread was already a contradiction.


Explain.



Max King of the Wild on 17 November 2012
TheEvilBanana said:
Max King of the Wild said:

Mainstream historiants of theistic and atheistic nature believe Jesus is real. You probably only study mainstream opinion. Most outspoken atheists ESPOUSE that they believe in science, logic and reason. Those are the people I am talking about. I  need to edit the thread to make that more clear.

REAL christians do not believe in science, logic or rational thoughts. Only the moderates.

All you have said is that my logic is invalid you have not proven it. Please prove that I am illogical when you say it.

You haven't even tried to destroy my OP. You barely adressed even a fraction of what I said.


This is the truth and as I believe it, do not participate in this thread if you're easily offended or closed minded.