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Hisiru on 11 August 2012
happydolphin said:
darkknightkryta said:

I just went to check screen shots of it now, so no I didn't.  And yes, that's the support I'm talking about.  Nintendo needs moar.

:3 Look at some videos on Youtube, it looks pretty damn impressive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NSjfaSw4_M&feature=related

And I'm excited for this kind of support too, I fully agree with you. You're aware of Ghost Recon Online right?

@Oni. I don't disagree with you. Market's there tho. ;)

They wanted to show the WiiU version at E3, but it seems Nintendo pulled it off. Only god knows why, Nintendo is full of secrets this time.

http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=178468



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Mr Khan on 11 August 2012
Hisiru said:
happydolphin said:
darkknightkryta said:

I just went to check screen shots of it now, so no I didn't.  And yes, that's the support I'm talking about.  Nintendo needs moar.

:3 Look at some videos on Youtube, it looks pretty damn impressive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NSjfaSw4_M&feature=related

And I'm excited for this kind of support too, I fully agree with you. You're aware of Ghost Recon Online right?

@Oni. I don't disagree with you. Market's there tho. ;)

They wanted to show the WiiU version at E3, but it seems Nintendo pulled it off. Only god knows why, Nintendo is full of secrets this time.

http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=178468

Nintendo has to have something epic coming...



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

TripleMMM on 11 August 2012

I knew this wasn't gonna start well...



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darkknightkryta on 11 August 2012
Play4Fun said:
darkknightkryta said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
darkknightkryta said:
I still think Nintendo gambled wrong when showing off their third party support. It's not necessarily bad that Batman, Mass Effect, etc are getting ported over, but that's the problem: nothing new. I think once Watch Dogs, or the new Star Wars games gets shown off, most people can stop arguing (Assuming they get shown off).


You'll see old ports in any console launch window. I think the current lineup compares very favourably to the 360's initial third party offerrings (GUN, King Kong, NFS Most Wanted, some crappy Tony Hawk game and Ridge Racer...)

You misunderstand me, I know full well about the ports, that's not the problem.  The problem is that Nintendo has given no good faith for the future, there were two games at E3 running with higher spec PCs in mind and are most likely gonna look like that on the next gen set of consoles, not old.  Neither of them were running on the Wii U.  Even 1 game from someone would be good enough.  Nintendo has a good relationship with Square, they could have had the Luminous Engine demo running on the Wii U, atleast with downgraded character models.  Epic has abandoned Unreal 4 for the Wii U.  Nintendo themselves has shown off nothing with their games other than two tech demos, both of which pale in comparison to next gen tech demoes (Cryengine 3, Luminous, Unreal 4).  Like I know Nintendo is making a tight little machine just like the Gamecube, but put some good faith in something, they have a lot of developers use them!


1.  Cryengine3 runs beautifully on WiiU

2. UE4 games can be ported to WiiU

3. WiiU's GPU will be modern and be able to do the same effects as PS4/720 scaled down.

1. Yes it is, it's also running beautifully on the 360.  Will it be using that secret toad rendering?  Not until I see it.

2.  UE4 games can technically be ported over, but Epic isn't going to do it, and I doubt any publisher is going to invest in doing it themselves.  And we'll most likely never know how much of the engine the Wii U can handle.

3.  When I said "...tight little machine like the Gamecube..." that's exactly what I meant.



Hisiru on 11 August 2012
Mr Khan said:
Hisiru said:
happydolphin said:
darkknightkryta said:

I just went to check screen shots of it now, so no I didn't.  And yes, that's the support I'm talking about.  Nintendo needs moar.

:3 Look at some videos on Youtube, it looks pretty damn impressive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NSjfaSw4_M&feature=related

And I'm excited for this kind of support too, I fully agree with you. You're aware of Ghost Recon Online right?

@Oni. I don't disagree with you. Market's there tho. ;)

They wanted to show the WiiU version at E3, but it seems Nintendo pulled it off. Only god knows why, Nintendo is full of secrets this time.

http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=178468

Nintendo has to have something epic coming...


All we have so far (about the game) is this:

http://nintendoeverything.com/87554/first-project-cars-wii-u-details/

Nintendo probably wants to show this game at September's big WiiU conference because this is one of the games that will show a lot of WiiU features and they already confirmed they don't want to show some games to avoid idea copying. That is probably the reason why they didn't showed Aliens: Colonial Marines.

I hope Nintendo will have something VERY big at this WiiU conference, but I will buy a black WiiU anyway + 7 games, I am already convinced.



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Sal.Paradise on 11 August 2012
darkknightkryta said:

3.  When I said "...tight little machine like the Gamecube..." 

dat dirty talk



Play4Fun on 11 August 2012
darkknightkryta said:
Play4Fun said:
darkknightkryta said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
darkknightkryta said:
I still think Nintendo gambled wrong when showing off their third party support. It's not necessarily bad that Batman, Mass Effect, etc are getting ported over, but that's the problem: nothing new. I think once Watch Dogs, or the new Star Wars games gets shown off, most people can stop arguing (Assuming they get shown off).


You'll see old ports in any console launch window. I think the current lineup compares very favourably to the 360's initial third party offerrings (GUN, King Kong, NFS Most Wanted, some crappy Tony Hawk game and Ridge Racer...)

You misunderstand me, I know full well about the ports, that's not the problem.  The problem is that Nintendo has given no good faith for the future, there were two games at E3 running with higher spec PCs in mind and are most likely gonna look like that on the next gen set of consoles, not old.  Neither of them were running on the Wii U.  Even 1 game from someone would be good enough.  Nintendo has a good relationship with Square, they could have had the Luminous Engine demo running on the Wii U, atleast with downgraded character models.  Epic has abandoned Unreal 4 for the Wii U.  Nintendo themselves has shown off nothing with their games other than two tech demos, both of which pale in comparison to next gen tech demoes (Cryengine 3, Luminous, Unreal 4).  Like I know Nintendo is making a tight little machine just like the Gamecube, but put some good faith in something, they have a lot of developers use them!


1.  Cryengine3 runs beautifully on WiiU

2. UE4 games can be ported to WiiU

3. WiiU's GPU will be modern and be able to do the same effects as PS4/720 scaled down.

1. Yes it is, it's also running beautifully on the 360.  Will it be using that secret toad rendering?  Not until I see it.

2.  UE4 games can technically be ported over, but Epic isn't going to do it, and I doubt any publisher is going to invest in doing it themselves.  And we'll most likely never know how much of the engine the Wii U can handle.

3.  When I said "...tight little machine like the Gamecube..." that's exactly what I meant.


1. Not with the new features, it isn't.  It's called tesselation and GPUS have had the ability to do it for a few  years now and so will WiiU (even it if doesn't look as good) since the early target specs state that the GPU has a tesselation unit.

2. Why wouldn't the devs port games to WiiU? They hate money? WiiU is coming out first, will be the cheapest and will most likely have the largest userbase. Unlike the Wii, it will be able to handle next gen multi-plats so what reason do they have to skip it?

3. Well then, I guess WiiU won't have any problems with next gen multi-plats then. It will all come down to how it sells.



Hisiru on 11 August 2012
darkknightkryta said:
Play4Fun said:
darkknightkryta said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
darkknightkryta said:
I still think Nintendo gambled wrong when showing off their third party support. It's not necessarily bad that Batman, Mass Effect, etc are getting ported over, but that's the problem: nothing new. I think once Watch Dogs, or the new Star Wars games gets shown off, most people can stop arguing (Assuming they get shown off).


You'll see old ports in any console launch window. I think the current lineup compares very favourably to the 360's initial third party offerrings (GUN, King Kong, NFS Most Wanted, some crappy Tony Hawk game and Ridge Racer...)

You misunderstand me, I know full well about the ports, that's not the problem.  The problem is that Nintendo has given no good faith for the future, there were two games at E3 running with higher spec PCs in mind and are most likely gonna look like that on the next gen set of consoles, not old.  Neither of them were running on the Wii U.  Even 1 game from someone would be good enough.  Nintendo has a good relationship with Square, they could have had the Luminous Engine demo running on the Wii U, atleast with downgraded character models.  Epic has abandoned Unreal 4 for the Wii U.  Nintendo themselves has shown off nothing with their games other than two tech demos, both of which pale in comparison to next gen tech demoes (Cryengine 3, Luminous, Unreal 4).  Like I know Nintendo is making a tight little machine just like the Gamecube, but put some good faith in something, they have a lot of developers use them!


1.  Cryengine3 runs beautifully on WiiU

2. UE4 games can be ported to WiiU

3. WiiU's GPU will be modern and be able to do the same effects as PS4/720 scaled down.

1. Yes it is, it's also running beautifully on the 360.  Will it be using that secret toad rendering?  Not until I see it.

2.  UE4 games can technically be ported over, but Epic isn't going to do it, and I doubt any publisher is going to invest in doing it themselves.  And we'll most likely never know how much of the engine the Wii U can handle.

3.  When I said "...tight little machine like the Gamecube..." that's exactly what I meant.

1. So... it's also running beautifully on 360 and it will run beautifully on WiiU, what's your point? And what makes you think we will see the toad rendering on PS4/x720? Looking at the leaked specs I am not sure if we will see it even on the x720/PS4, not with all those details and dynamic enviroment. Crytek is probably using a very powerful PC for those effects/details.

2. Epic don't want to support Android, but now Gameloft is developing an UE3 game for Android and Iphone, it doesn't really matter if Epic doesn't want to do that, really. Epic also had no intention of supporting the Wii at all, but there is some UE2 games on the Wii. It's up to developers, if they want to port the games, they will do it. Ubisoft already said it costs around 1~2M to port games for the WiiU and they can easily have a good revenue with just 200~300k copies sold, that's how multiplatforms survives on PC. Games will become more expensive to develop, don't you think developers will make anything to have more money?

3. Not really an issue. It won't be able to be as powerful as x720 or even PS4 (which looks weaker than x720 so far, but most of the ram on the x720 is focused on multimedia/Windows 8), but then, PS2 wasn't as powerful as xbox1 (xbox1 is probably 3~4x more powerful than ps2 lol). If the WiiU can have ports and make money, there won't be any problems. 



mysticwolf on 11 August 2012

The ports are amazing news if you are a Ninty fanboy and didn't play anything other than Nintendo systems.



 Been away for a bit, but sneaking back in.

Gaming on: PS4, PC, 3DS. Got a Switch! Mainly to play Smash

darkknightkryta on 11 August 2012
Hisiru said:

1. So... it's also running beautifully on 360 and it will run beautifully on WiiU, what's your point? And what makes you think we will see the toad rendering on PS4/x720? Looking at the leaked specs I am not sure if we will see it even on the x720/PS4, not with all those details and dynamic enviroment.

Yes we don't know, it most likely will.

2. Epic don't want to support Android, but now Gameloft is developing an UE3 game for Android and Iphone, it doesn't really matter if Epic doesn't want to do that, really. Epic also had no intention of supporting the Wii at all, but there is some UE2 games on the Wii. It's up to developers, if they want to port the games, they will do it. Ubisoft already said it costs around 1~2M to port games for the WiiU and they can easily have a good revenue with just 200~300k copies sold, that's how multiplatforms survives on PC. Games will become more expensive to develop, don't you think developers will make anything to have more money?

"The third and current generation of the Unreal Engine (UE3) is designed for DirectX (versions 9-11 for Windows and Xbox 360), as well as systems using OpenGL, including the PlayStation 3, Mac OS X, iOS, Android..." - Wikipedia, Unrealtechnology.com as source. 

Notice the Android platform that it's running on.  And Epic has stated they're not porting Unreal 4 to the Wii U.

3. Not really an issue. It won't be able to be as powerful as x720 or even PS4 (which looks weaker than x720 so far, but most of the ram on the x720 is focused on multimedia/Windows 8), but then, PS2 wasn't as powerful as xbox1 (xbox1 is probably 3~4x more powerful than ps2 lol). If the WiiU can have ports and make money, there won't be any problems. 

Again I know Nintendo is making the most balanced machine that they can make, I'm not knocking the hardware.