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Forums - Sales Discussion - Updated: Global Hardware and software UP! (28th July '12) - 3DS dominates, Vita falters

Andrespetmonkey said:

The PSP sold at $250 and sold a lot better than the PSV in the same time scale.

I guess it's not working anymore, what could have changed since then I wonder. Last time I checked the PSV has "the best launch line up of any system" (read that in another article).

What did the PSP have in its launch window, I'd be hard-pressed to find it had that many "more games".

The PSV, simply put, does not have the momentum the PS brand had when the PSP came out. It also is face to face with a much more aggressive Nintendo (slashing the price down 80$ is insanely aggressive).

The answers are right in front of us.



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Kresnik said:

The easiest way to answer this is by saying "See Pezus' post".  @ bold, that's not what I meant, and not really what I said at all.  Bundles were one of only three things I listed (along with games and features, if you look back at the post).

I am sure a price cut is something they're considering.  But just because the 3DS did it and it worked, doesn't mean it should automatically be the "go-to" to boost Vita sales.  Sony are obviously trying the route Nintendo decided not to which is wait and see what the bigger name games do for the system.

What if that means it's all too late. I mean the HD twins remaining in the game despite a market leader (Wii) is a phenomenon we've only seen in gen 7 on both the portable and the home console front. Generally, in most other cases, it was dominated or be dominated.

Do you think Sony can certainly co-exist as strongly alongside a leader? If so, for how many generations before devs and consumers will simply opt the market leader and do away with multi-console purchasing habits (like it was in the past)? I'm not saying one is better than another, I'm just saying that in the past it was win or lose, gen 7 was the exception, not the norm.



happydolphin said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

The PSP sold at $250 and sold a lot better than the PSV in the same time scale.

I guess it's not working anymore, what could have changed since then I wonder. Last time I checked the PSV has "the best launch line up of any system" (read that in another article).

3DS slashed it's price drastically and got a lot of great software.

What was the PSP's competitor doing when it lauched? Well a launched a month later. 

What did the PSP have in its launch window, I'd be hard-pressed to find it had that many "more games".

The PSV, simply put, does not have the momentum the PS brand had when the PSP came out. It also is face to face with a much more aggressive Nintendo (slashing the price down 80$ is insanely aggressive)

yes PS's momentum was also a factor, something I alwasy forget.

The answers are right in front of us.

Point is that it doesn't need a price cut yet, and I've explained why in an earlier post in this thread. If you wanna know why, you've got some digging to do happyd, because I have like 3 blue quote thingies to address in my buddy so I'm not searching for you ;P



i think 250 and 300$ without mem card and game is holding a lot of consumers back
Sony should create an official Console+game+memcard bundle at those prices fast



pezus said:

So can we expect 3DS sales in Europe to increase further next week or what?

Europe hates the 3DS.

I expect at most 20K this comming Sales Report. ( Yeah... I really don't know, but they do seem to hate it!)



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NintendoPie said:
pezus said:

So can we expect 3DS sales in Europe to increase further next week or what?

Europe hates the 3DS.

I expect at most 20K this comming Sales Report. ( Yeah... I really don't know, but they do seem to hate it!)


I may be a little lost about it, but maybe those low numbers (for all consoles) in Europe can be happening because of the Crisis in there, right?

Dunno, I SHOULD be wrong, but this is probably a factor.



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MagusDiablo said:


I may be a little lost about it, but maybe those low numbers (for all consoles) in Europe can be happening because of the Crisis in there, right?

Dunno, I SHOULD be wrong, but this is probably a factor.

I don't know. I guess Holiday's will tell us since many people blow money on anything then.



happydolphin said:
Kresnik said:

The easiest way to answer this is by saying "See Pezus' post".  @ bold, that's not what I meant, and not really what I said at all.  Bundles were one of only three things I listed (along with games and features, if you look back at the post).

I am sure a price cut is something they're considering.  But just because the 3DS did it and it worked, doesn't mean it should automatically be the "go-to" to boost Vita sales.  Sony are obviously trying the route Nintendo decided not to which is wait and see what the bigger name games do for the system.

What if that means it's all too late. I mean the HD twins remaining in the game despite a market leader (Wii) is a phenomenon we've only seen in gen 7 on both the portable and the home console front. Generally, in most other cases, it was dominated or be dominated.

Do you think Sony can certainly co-exist as strongly alongside a leader? If so, for how many generations before devs and consumers will simply opt the market leader and do away with multi-console purchasing habits (like it was in the past)? I'm not saying one is better than another, I'm just saying that in the past it was win or lose, gen 7 was the exception, not the norm.

Its not going to go back to that, remember how devs and publishers hated having to deal with Ninty in the past because of their crazy demands. But they had to deal wiht them because they were the only game in town. Same thing to a lesser extent with SOny. Publishers like to have multiple systems out their because that means they have more leverage, hell this gen alone SOny and MS were tripping over themselves to give money to these guys just to get exclusive DLC and some timed crap. Not even full on games, that never happened in the past, because there wa always a dominator and that dominator could set the standard



DieAppleDie said:
i think 250 and 300$ without mem card and game is holding a lot of consumers back
Sony should create an official Console+game+memcard bundle at those prices fast

il go so far as to say it should have been there day1, cant see why they didnt just pack in the cheapest card they had. 



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