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BasilZero said:
NintendoPie said:

I was meant from what we have so far the 3DS has major potential. 


Both systems have great potential, but in the end, what games come out will eventually get me to buy whichever first. (Which is why I'm waiting for E3 2012 to see what new games will be released before buying a system).

 

Regardless of which I buy first, I plan to get both eventually.


Also I dont play myself to one particular company, I rather support myself as a gamer/consumer before I support Sony or Nintendo ;p

So I see you have been cured of the Nintendo Zombie Disease... what a shame... ;)



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BasilZero said:
NintendoPie said:
BasilZero said:
NintendoPie said:

I was meant from what we have so far the 3DS has major potential. 


Both systems have great potential, but in the end, what games come out will eventually get me to buy whichever first. (Which is why I'm waiting for E3 2012 to see what new games will be released before buying a system).

 

Regardless of which I buy first, I plan to get both eventually.


Also I dont play myself to one particular company, I rather support myself as a gamer/consumer before I support Sony or Nintendo ;p

So I see you have been cured of the Nintendo Zombie Disease... what a shame... ;)


Actually been cured of it since 2003 but its side effects still linger from time to time ;p

Why since 2003? The GameCube was one of the best Nintendo Systems!... in my opinion. 



BasilZero said:
NintendoPie said:
BasilZero said:


Actually been cured of it since 2003 but its side effects still linger from time to time ;p

Why since 2003? The GameCube was one of the best Nintendo Systems!... in my opinion. 


Oh dont get me wrong, I loved the GCN as well and its in top 3 favorite Nintendo console systems.

2003 was when I bought my PS2 ;) which was my first non-nintendo system ever XD

Ahhh I see. I just didn't really get into the PS2. I had the XBOX (throws-up) PS2, and NGC (happy face.) I loved the KH games in the PS2 and thats about it.



Nope it can't do it imo.



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BasilZero said:
NintendoPie said:
BasilZero said:
NintendoPie said:
BasilZero said:


Actually been cured of it since 2003 but its side effects still linger from time to time ;p

Why since 2003? The GameCube was one of the best Nintendo Systems!... in my opinion. 


Oh dont get me wrong, I loved the GCN as well and its in top 3 favorite Nintendo console systems.

2003 was when I bought my PS2 ;) which was my first non-nintendo system ever XD

Ahhh I see. I just didn't really get into the PS2. I had the XBOX (throws-up) PS2, and NGC (happy face.) I loved the KH games in the PS2 and thats about it.


RPGs overall won me over, I have more PS2 games than the GCN games because the huge RPG library along with some great games like GTA,DMC, GoW and other series.

I loved KH especially *-*!

KH was a great game. Now lets stop derailing this thread. XD



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RolStoppable said:
pezus said:

Nope, lack of huge games did. It's not that people don't want to play "console-like" games, it's more that the games weren't popular enough. Are Mario Kart and SM3DLand not console like experiences, for example? Are they not very very similar to Wii/gamecube games?

The PSP had all the most popular PS2 games, except for Gran Turismo which came out late in the lifecycle of the PSP. GTA, NfS, FIFA, Pro Evo, Madden, Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core, virtually everything was coming. The huge games were there, they just didn't become as huge as they were on the PS2. Why didn't they sell better? Because they were inferior versions on a more expensive machine for the most part. The PS Vita is in the same boat. People are better off going with a 360 or PS3 to play the games.

Rol, as much as I agree with the main part of your post, the first part may be a tad hit and miss. Look at what's coming out for Vita and compare the quality with the PSP titles (safe CC). Look at flagships Uncharted, look at LBP, these are serious efforts. Granted UC was dev'd by Bend, not ND, but ND still offered guidance. Remember R&C, Clank or Daxter on the PSP? bastardized versions of their console counterparts. I played neither but it's my understanding they offered little appeal to the series' fans and to those who might've been interested. For this point only, I think some of us may be judging too soon with the Vita, especially in the west. Sony seems to be putting in serious efforts in their 1st party offerings this time around. So italics may have been true last gen, but might not hold true this coming gen. Last gen, Sony did not generate the userbase on PSP that would support an ecosystem where the games you listed fed and were fed through. The flagships weren't there. This time around, they are.

If UC on PS3 is indicator of interest (5.5 mil for UC2), then however the PS3 managed to sell 61+ Million units, games like that are probably an important part of the equation.

@italics. Remember that the Vita has an even larger and crisper screen than the PSP, it also now sports dual analog, so console owners in the west may feel at home with it. It's an uncertainty, but you can't rule it off, since we are trying to be objective, right friend?

So two new points to consider on this front for Vita as compared to PSP. 1) High-caliber 1st party flagship titles off the bat, and 2) hardware much more in line with current console offerings.

Then add the tapping into the casual market with touch screen, gyro and other capabilities, and games like LBP that make use if it as flagship, in the west the Vita may do much better than some of us expect. I just wouldn't want us to be biting our tongues in a few months from now you know.

Granted the article's arguments are trash, that's a fact history disproves them. But there are arguments we can make (some of us are briter than many journalists in the industry), which can at least point to a better performane of Vita as compared to PSP, at least in the west. Having said that, I don't believe the Vita will ever surpass the total sales of the 3DS, but it may achieve up to 70% of its global sales due to a boost in the all important western market (sales-wise).

Anyway, good post. Your data is informative as usual.



BasilZero said:
NintendoPie said:
BasilZero said:
Dont care what anyone say but I'm getting a vita cause I know its gonna have better RPGs than the 3DS.

(Takes out flame shield)

So far the 3DS looks pretty promising for RPG's but! Whatever you say Basil........................................................................

Here are the RPGs (that have been fully announced- i.e. screenshots,gameplay vids shown) that I want on both systems atm ;p

3DS
-Kingdom Hearts 3D
-Shin Megami Tensei Devil Survivor Overlocked
-Paper Mario
-Bravery Default

Vita
-Dragon's Crown
-Shin Megami Tensei Persona 4
-Disgaea 3
-Tales of Innocence R (T.T hope it comes out in US)
-Ragnarok Odyssey
-Ys Celceta no Jukai (hope it comes out in US like the rest T.T)

 

Edit: Cant wait to see what GDC and E3 will reveal in future games!

If those japanese only games come out in Europe, I'll just import them since PSVita is region free.

You totally forgot about Tales of the Abyss for the 3DS.

 



Not that MGS: Snake Eater 3D will not have a big impact(when launches in US) that MH 3G did prior to the Vita launch in Japan, but I can tell you there will be sales won over by the special 3DS edition of MGS when it launches the day before the Vita. The sales won't be THAT bad as to how they were with the Vita launch in Japan, but saying that the Vita has better launch software is true. Now what I believe is that most people thought that the Vita will sell extremely well at launch in Japan because of its games.. but it didn't. Then those people said, "we will just wait until it launches in America, after all, the launch games are most popular in Western territory." While this also may be true, it will be be enough to believe that the Vita will not sell enough as the 3DS, espeically with so much great 3DS software coming out in the whole year of 2012. Btw, CoD won't be enough to win over the Vita. Sony will have to work on the dual-analog controls with FPS from what I've seen/heard.



I feel like I'm 13 again reading this.



Love and tolerate.

Nintendo has never lost a handheld war. Its a super safe to say the 3ds will beat the PSV