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Did the recent Nintendo downfall help them?

Assuredly so! 16 15.24%
 
yes 26 24.76%
 
NO 8 7.62%
 
Still waiting to see if t... 28 26.67%
 
Maybe 10 9.52%
 
other 1 0.95%
 
see resultz 15 14.29%
 
Total:104

Meh, they'll be back to their old ways before you know it. It's inevitable... happens at least once every generation.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
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Probably not. Nintendo seems to constantly read incorrectly why they are successful. They will say that a lot of Wiis were bought on Black Friday because people wanted to play Skyward Sword. They also claimed that people originally bought the Wii for Twilight Princess. The truth is that common person bought the Wii for Wii Sports and games like that. Now they are buying it because of the price.

Nintendo will continue to go down the path that they did with the Gamecube. They are going to give people what they truly wished that they wanted with the Wii U instead of what they truly want.



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I think the first of a lesson learnt was they revealed that 3rd parties got to know Wii U sooner than ever. By that, not only does Nintendo offer 3rd parties time to make games but also shows a gesture of really being open.
I too think that Bit.Trip creators have dev kits, which is rather surprising and points too Nintendo wanting more devs to bring games sooner to the market and in more quantity! What the Wii needed!

With 3DS Nintendo learnt the importance of a good online system on games (MK7) and on the get go of the console. Actually, i think Nintendo will surprise us when they reveal their online plans.

In terms of killer games, it`s true that 3DS will only receive it`s first with MK7. That pleases core and casual gamers. And i think it will make the console reach a new plateau.
Still, i don`t know if that will be enough to call it a winner - comparing it to DS or not. What i feel it needs is mainly an overall redesign to make it less DS and more 3DS and improve the 3D tech. That, plus games that really appeal to the casual and core crowd, are the most important things for next year.



spurgeonryan said:
DélioPT said:
I think the first of a lesson learnt was they revealed that 3rd parties got to know Wii U sooner than ever. By that, not only does Nintendo offer 3rd parties time to make games but also shows a gesture of really being open.
I too think that Bit.Trip creators have dev kits, which is rather surprising and points too Nintendo wanting more devs to bring games sooner to the market and in more quantity! What the Wii needed!


That first paragraph. I just realized after reading it that I have been hearing about a lot of Devs who have the Wii U (rumored). Third Party of course. That is really good news not that you mention it! I hope the games they put out are really good since they are so ahead of the ball now. Maybe this really will be the turning point for 3rd party developers for Nintendo consoles!

Not only does it show Nintendo is more open than ever, but as you said, it does give 3rd parties time to invest on Wii U and create good games.
I don`t remember where i read this, but someone was of the opinion that by having Bit.Trip developers get their hands on Wii U dev kits so soon, it means that Nintendo is not only preparing 3rd parties for retail games, but also for their online structure. That is a good point of view and makes perfect sense!



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definitely, at least for 3DS owners

I mean 3DS wasn't doing as good, and now we have tons of stuff coming up

Nintendo has erupted the 3DS volcano!!



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My eyes are on late January Wii and 3DS sales. Then we will know whether the software boost has a long term effect.

Until then it is marketing and hype.

Nintendo have not fixed the core problem of no longer appealing to a mass audience. Compared to Wii Sports and Brain Training, 3D Mario and 3D Zelda are niche audiences that do not create hardware momentum (because people would already have a Wii/3DS if they liked those games.) Until they get a 2D Mario on 3DS it is dead. And unless a 2D Mario plus Wii Sports sequel appear on Wii U with, and this is important, higher production values than their Wii originals, it is dead too.



Soleron said:

My eyes are on late January Wii and 3DS sales. Then we will know whether the software boost has a long term effect.

Until then it is marketing and hype.

Nintendo have not fixed the core problem of no longer appealing to a mass audience. Compared to Wii Sports and Brain Training, 3D Mario and 3D Zelda are niche audiences that do not create hardware momentum (because people would already have a Wii/3DS if they liked those games.) Until they get a 2D Mario on 3DS it is dead. And unless a 2D Mario plus Wii Sports sequel appear on Wii U with, and this is important, higher production values than their Wii originals, it is dead too.


Bull****

Nearly everything you wrote, sry. Late January is late january, nevertheless good holiday sales are good holiday sales (and these sales are about 1/3 of yearly sales).

2D Mario was and probably is a monster, but 3DS is far from dead and you should know that. By the way, 2D Mario on 3DS???

You're dead Sir,

dead wrong!

2D Mario ftw, i can't hear that sh*** anymore!

Rol, stopp it!



ninty_shareholder64 said:
Soleron said:

 

Nearly everything you wrote, sry. Late January is late january, nevertheless good holiday sales are good holiday sales (and these sales are about 1/3 of yearly sales).

OK, obviously amazing holiday sales would be to their credit. I expect ambivalent holiday sales (not much better than 360/PS3 for Wii, tracking a lot below DS's later Christmases for 3DS), but *dead* post-holiday sales, like near zero.

2D Mario was and probably is a monster, but 3DS is far from dead and you should know that. By the way, 2D Mario on 3DS???

2D Mario is a different game series in consumers' minds. I can tell by the way 64/Sunshine/64 DS/Galaxy/Galaxy 2/3D Land were/are selling on similar trajectories, and NSMB DS/Wii have trajectories tracking unbeliveably above those numbers, but cost less to make.

You're dead Sir,

dead wrong!

2D Mario ftw, i can't hear that sh*** anymore!

I personally prefer 3D Mario to 2D Mario. Nevertheless I accept the economic reality that 3D Mario will never sell as well and Nintendo needs to stop pushing that as their flagship series, when 2D Mario and Wii Sports should recieve the development love (orchestrated soundtracks, sparkling graphics etc). You're letting your own preferences get in the way of what Nintendo should make.

Rol, stopp it!