Yep sony made it so developers would have to spend a sh-t load of money just to learn how to use the tech and then sell the game after massive loses in development, scaring them over to there competitors.

Thats exactly what sony said when making the PS3.  This is the worst explaination for why the tech was so hard to develope for. Are you kidding because it was funny, If not..........................

--> http://www.shacknews.com/article/56844/ps3-intentionally-hard-to-develop

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EDIT: LMAO @ that foil hat picture attempt

Sorry for bringing this thread back lol

I havnt been on in a while =P

eh... ps1 and saturn launched almost simultanously, ps2 was there before xbox and gamecube. the ps3 is the only thing that came late. and btw, the saturn didn't lead anything except price ;)

yes i know but Saturn was still launched before the ps1 at the end of the day :)

and Dreamcast was launched before the ps2 so..

All sounds good in theory, I certainly always argue that each company needs a big hardware pusher at launch, or shortly after. I'm not 100% convinced that GT is the right franchise, because it is made to a very high graphical standard and takes a long time to develop.

I am positive Sony will launch within 2013. I also would bet it will be 3-4x the power of PS3. It will likely be slightly more powerful then the next-box. Much like rumors indicate the nextbox will lack a hard drive instead using cloud. I suspect two models of PS4 will be released one with a hard drive and other more expensive features with a cheaper cloud based model that has less expensive hardware. The console will launch at 350$ to 450$ it will launch at a profit. Sony will incorporate some new innovations in the system.

I suspect Sony will not take any risks with PS4. It will be sold to make a profit it won't blow xbox out of the water to much in an effort to ensure it recieves ports. Sony will do as much as possible to get sales as cheaply as possible. They will likely scrap Move and not bring in a Kinect competitor focusing instead on classic gameplay and adding some unique innovations to the controller.

I think PS4 could very well take out Microsoft early on if they play their cards right. If they launch alongside one another in 2013. Sony could over take Nintendo within two to three years assuming Nintendo does not get a large enough head start. But if Sony doesn't consider Nintendo a competitor they should be able to win.

By not releasing a Kinect or Tablet. They can shave a ton of cost from the hardware making it cheaper to make then Nintendo or Microsofts console. They should be able to turn a big profit off each unit selling at a very competitive price. 350$ at launch and able to cut the price further if the hardware doesn't sell well enough.

but the point was another one... the delay between saturn and psx was ridiculously small and dreamcast was no real competition, as anyone knows. the hardware was not that bad, was overall it was the wii in that generation, speaking of hw-specs. the point is: sony was late *only* with ps3 - with confidence, of course, after dominating the market with psx and ps2. it's nice to see that it turned out otherwise.

hmm i agree with the 2013 part

that way when Sony launches at the same time as the NexBox, Microsoft wont automatically have the upperhand of 3rd party devs developing games on it's system 1st like this gen

and also Nexbox wont have time to build a library of games against sony before they launch. It will strictly be all about the exclusives from jump >:)

and as for the ps3 graphical bragging thing, its basically 50/50 right now but looking at some rumours, it looks like PS4 might just be the more powerful out of the 2 but idk..

but the point was another one... the delay between saturn and psx was ridiculously small

but still ps1 launched after the saturn so that would mean that they launched IN competition like i said in the OP

i really dont get the point you are trying to make

and dreamcast was no real competition

umm no

Dreamcast was in fact REAL competition. Sony just made them LOOK like they weren't real competition

the hardware was not that bad, was overall it was the wii in that generation, speaking of hw-specs.

this is where you are incorrect my good sir ;)

the ps3 and 360 are THIS GEN consoles with THIS GEN hw while the wii is a THIS GEN console with LAST GEN hw

in order for the Dreamcast to be the "wii" of the 6th generation, the Dreamcast would have needed to have the same graphics as the Nintendo 64(the best LAST GEN hw at that time)

so the Dreamcast is NOT the "wii" of the 6th generation. The Dreamcast is simply the "Dreamcast" of that generation

;)

sony was late *only* with ps3

this is false information mr. walsufnir

Sonys home console launch history below

5th gen

1st) Sega Saturn

2nd) Playstation 1

3rd) Nintendo 64

6th gen

1st) Sega Dreamcast

2nd) Playstation 2

3rd) Xbox

4th) Nintendo Gamecube

^^ in america the xbox launched like 3 days before the gamecube BUT the Gamecube launched before the Xbox in Japan so im just going by the US launches because i'm in the US

7th gen

1st) Xbox 360

2nd) Playstation 3

3rd) Nintendo Wii

like seriously should i even have to explain this -_-

i dont know about the the bolded lol