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Seece said:
psrock said:
kowenicki said:
psrock said:

I'm surprise how close the PS3 and 360 are the last 6 months, I expected a bigger gap due kinect. 


channel stuffing will answer that one

MS needs to stop doing that, it's obvious they sold less than 2.7 million last quater but stuffed the channel nonetheless.

No they didn't, they replenished the stock from Q4.

replenished? stuffed ? same shit. 



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psrock said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
kowenicki said:
psrock said:

I'm surprise how close the PS3 and 360 are the last 6 months, I expected a bigger gap due kinect. 


channel stuffing will answer that one

MS needs to stop doing that, it's obvious they sold less than 2.7 million last quater but stuffed the channel nonetheless.

No they didn't, they replenished the stock from Q4.

replenished? stuffed ? same shit. 

No it isn't. We can't prove when a channel has been stuffed, but it still doesn't mean the same, amazing you can't grasp that, it's ABC sales.



 

kowenicki said:
leo-j said:

I don't get how kowenicki could get away with hidden offensive remarks.. two years ago.. MACHINA.. many mods would have banned people for slipping so much..

OT:

wonder if wii figures include bundles software..


hidden offensive remarks?  what the hell are you talking about?

Amazing, you post an informative thread about sales and if they don't go Sony's way it really pisses some people off.

Hats off to ethomaz who genuinely likes the thread/sales.



 

Seece said:

Not really, that $500 mill is strewn across 5 Q's and is sensationalised, Nintendo spend more than $500 mill advertising the Wii most years .. it's not really that much. That at PS3 had GT5 which was obviously popular in Europe. Dunno what you expected Fable and Halo to do ..

Link? I've not seen that said before.

And Fable/Halo are MS's 2 biggest franchises. Big games releasing = More advertising for the system due to those games. Both system sellers (even if minimal) with bundling.

Add in a Slim redesign, and the launch of the fastest selling electronic device ever...

All in the space of a Year... While the PS3 had GT5 and Move.

kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:

It's surprising that the PS3 outshipped the 360, despite Slim, Fable, Halo and Kinect... Along with a $500 Million advertising budget.


No really, the ps3 was supposed to leave ther 360 in its wake by now wasnt it?  A HUGE number of exclusive releases have colme and gone, the very succesful MOVE is here and and the might of the sony marketing machine that pretty much beats any other on the planet is constantly in our faces.

Underlined - lolwut?

And no. It was likely that the PS3 wasn't going to outship the 360 in the last Year due to the things I listed above, which is what your thread is about.



                            

Also... I think you should add the PS2 into this, as in the recent Quarter it was pretty close to the Wii. (And the same Quarter last Year, if I remember correctly, it outshipped the 360)



                            

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Carl2291 said:
Seece said:

Not really, that $500 mill is strewn across 5 Q's and is sensationalised, Nintendo spend more than $500 mill advertising the Wii most years .. it's not really that much. That at PS3 had GT5 which was obviously popular in Europe. Dunno what you expected Fable and Halo to do ..

Link? I've not seen that said before.

And Fable/Halo are MS's 2 biggest franchises. Big games releasing = More advertising for the system due to those games. Both system sellers (even if minimal) with bundling.

Add in a Slim redesign, and the launch of the fastest selling electronic device ever...

All in the space of a Year... While the PS3 had GT5 and Move.

Kowen or some other 360 fan dug that info out, I wouldn't have a clue where to find it. Still though, it's the 3rd Halo game and it gave a slight boost, but it's irrelevent, as you said, minimal.

I'm impressed PS3 is ahead, but impressed it was more or less flat YoY more than anything. 360's growth was very impressive, going into it's 5th year, with Kinect, but without a price cut, and being up YoY by a large margin.



 

leo-j said:

is your room untidy.. just asking..

 

really now? Just because his "chart" wasn't the most organized thing doesn't mean he's a mess.. that's exactly what you meant with that post..

if you don't consider that offensive machina.. then something must have changed on this site.. and he's posted one word replies.. which according to what you mods have said, that's considered spam.. and if done more than once.. could warrant a ban..

BHR - 'i left off when i was contaminated...'

Kowen was jokingly replying, calm down it's not even insulting in the first place :-S



 

Seece said:

Amazing, you post an informative thread about sales and if they don't go Sony's way it really pisses some people off.

Hats off to ethomaz who genuinely likes the thread/sales.

Sony are 2nd place over the last Year and only a Million behind the gen leader...

How is this not going Sony's way?



                            

Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
kowenicki said:
psrock said:

I'm surprise how close the PS3 and 360 are the last 6 months, I expected a bigger gap due kinect. 


channel stuffing will answer that one

MS needs to stop doing that, it's obvious they sold less than 2.7 million last quater but stuffed the channel nonetheless.

No they didn't, they replenished the stock from Q4.

replenished? stuffed ? same shit. 

No it isn't. We can't prove when a channel has been stuffed, but it still doesn't mean the same, amazing you can't grasp that, it's ABC sales.

MS shipped more than they sold which means they stuffed the channel, for whatever reason, they are stuffing the channels. Yep, I can grasp that fact. 



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